My general experience with prefetching is that it is almost never a win when done just on trees, as in the usual mark-sweep or copy-collection garbage collector walk. Why? Because the time from the time you prefetch to the time you use the data is too variable. Stack disciplines and prefetch don't mix nicely.

If you want to see a win out of it you have to free up some of the ordering of your walk, and tweak your whole application to support it. e.g. if you want to use prefetching in garbage collection, the way to do it is to switch from a strict stack discipline to using a small fixed-sized queue on the output of the stack, then feed prefetch on the way into the queue rather than as you walk the stack. That paid out for me as a 10-15% speedup last time I used it after factoring in the overhead of the extra queue. Not too bad for a weekend project. =)

Without that sort of known lead-in time, it works out that prefetching is usually a net loss or vanishes into the noise.

As for the array ops, davean has a couple of cases w/ those for which the prefetching operations are a 20-25% speedup, which is what motivated Carter to start playing around with these again. I don't know off hand how easily those can be turned into public test cases though.

-Edward

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't been watching this, but I have one question: does prefetching actually *work*?  Do you have benchmarks (or better still, actual library/application code) that show some improvement?  I admit to being slightly sceptical - when I've tried using prefetching in the GC it has always been a struggle to get something that shows an improvement, and even when I get things tuned on one machine it typically makes things slower on a different processor.  And that's in the GC, doing it at the Haskell level should be even harder.

Cheers,
Simon


On 22/11/2014 05:43, Carter Schonwald wrote:
Hey Everyone,
in
https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/9353
and
https://phabricator.haskell.org/D350

is some preliminary work to fix up how the pure versions of the prefetch
primops work is laid out and prototyped.

However, while it nominally fixes up some of the problems with how the
current pure prefetch apis are fundamentally borken,  the simple design
in D350 isn't quite ideal, and i sketch out some other ideas in the
associated ticket #9353

I'd like to make sure  pure prefetch in 7.10 is slightly less broken
than in 7.8, but either way, its pretty clear that working out the right
fixed up design wont happen till 7.12. Ie, whatever makes 7.10, there
WILL have to be breaking changes to fix those primops for 7.12

thanks and any feedback / thoughts appreciated
-Carter


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