Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> writes:

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 04:54:41PM +0100, Adam Gundry wrote:

Thanks for starting this discussion, it would be good to see progress in
this direction. As it happens I was discussing this question with Ben and
Matt over dinner last night, and unfortunately they explained to me that it
is more difficult than I naively hoped, even once wired-in and known-key
things are moved to ghc-internal.

The difficulty is that, as a normal Haskell library, ghc itself will be
compiled against a particular version of base. Then when Template Haskell is
used (with the internal interpreter), code will be dynamically loaded into a
process that already has symbols for ghc's version of base, which means it
is not safe for the code to depend on a different version of base. This is
rather like the situation with TH and cross-compilers.

To avoid that problem, GHC's own dependency on "base" could be indirect
via a shared object with versioned symbol names and a version-specific
SONAME (possibly even a private to GHC SONAME and private symbol version
names).  Say "libbase.so.4.19.1".

The problem here is deeper than simply the symbol names. For instance,
the `List` type provided by `base-X.Y.Z` and `base-X.Y.Z'` may differ.
Since lists are used in the `template-haskell` AST, we would be unable
to share lists between `template-haskell` and `ghc`.

As noted in my recent reply elsewhere in the thread, this can be avoided
by communicating via serialisation instead of heap objects.

Cheers,

- Ben

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