The idea of treating !S as a subtype of S and then relying on the potential for new impredicativity machinery to let us just talk about how !S <= S makes me really happy.

data Nat = Z | S !Nat

Pattern matching on S could give back the tighter type !Nat rather than Nat for the argument, and if we ever have to show that to a user, the 'approximation' machinery would show it to users as Nat, concealing this implementation detail. Similarly matching with an as-pattern as part of a pattern that evaluates could do the same.

The constructor is a bit messier. It should really give back S :: Nat -> Nat as what the constructor should behave as rather than S :: !Nat -> Nat, because this will match existing behavior. Then the exposed constructor would force the argument before storing it away, just like we do today and we could recover via a sort of peephole optimization the elimination of the jump into the closure to evaluate when it is fed something known to be of type !Nat by some kind of "case/(!)-coercion" rule in the optimizer.

I'm partial to those parts of the idea and think it works pretty well.

I'm not sure how well it mixes with all the other discussions on levity polymorphism though. Notably: Trying to get to having !Nat live in an Unlifted kind, while Nat has a different kind seems likely to cause all sorts of headaches. =/

-Edward

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Dan Doel <dan.doel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I've added a section with my notes on the minimal semantics required
to address what Haskell lacks with respect to strict types.

Ed Kmett pointed me to some stuff that I think may fix all the
problems with the !T sort of solution. It builds on the new constraint
being considered for handling impredicativity. The quick sketch goes
like this. Given the declaration:

    data Nat = Z | S !Nat

then:

    Nat :: *
    !Nat :: Unlifted
    S :: Nat -> Nat

But we also have:

    !Nat <~ Nat

and the witness of this is just an identity function, because all
values of type !Nat are legitimate values of type Nat. Then we can
have:

    case n of
      S m -> ...
      Z -> ...

where m has type !Nat, but we can still call `S m` and the like,
because !Nat <~ Nat. If we do use `S m`, the S call will do some
unnecessary evaluation of m, but this can (hopefully) be fixed with an
optimization based on knowing that m has type !Nat, which we are
weakening to Nat.

Thoughts?

-- Dan


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Richard Eisenberg <eir@cis.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Simon Peyton Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> What's the wiki page?
>
> https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/UnliftedDataTypes
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