> there is a fair bit of user code for things like vector types that do things like

newtype V3 a = V3 (a,a,a,a)
         ^         1 2 3 4(!?)

Oh boy, I sure hope not ;)

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:14 AM Sven Panne <svenpanne@gmail.com> wrote:
2017-03-21 22:29 GMT+01:00 Edward Kmett <ekmett@gmail.com>:
[... In general I think the current behavior is the least surprising as it "walks all the a's it can" and is the only definition compatible with further extension with Traversable. [...]

OTOH, the current behavior contradicts my intuition that wrapping a type into data/newtype plus using the deriving machinery is basically a no-op (modulo bottoms etc.). When I e.g. wrap a type t, I would be very surprised if the Eq/Ord instances of the wrapped type would behave differently than the one on t. I know that this is very handwavy argument, but I think the current behavior is *very* surprising.

Somehow the current behavior seems to be incompatible with the FTP, where pairs are given a special treatment (if that't the right/intuitive choice is a completely different topic, though).

Given the fact that "deriving Foldable" is quite old and therefore hard to change, I would at least suggest a big, fat warning in the documentation, including various examples where intuition and implementation do not necessarily meet.
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