I also sometimes wish that GHC developer discussions happened in a single place, separate from the commits and ticket lists (at present they are sometimes on ghc-users and sometimes on cvs-ghc). For what it's worth, I don't follow the commit and build-bot messages closely, instead I use various git tools to catch up on what's going on with the development (mostly I use gitk, git-gub, and our own git-web instance on darcs.haskell.org). I do find the trac bug messages useful though, both as a GHC user and a GHC developer.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Ian Lynagh <ian@well-typed.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 12:29:01PM +0000, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:
> My own understanding is this:
>
> A GHC *user* is someone who uses GHC, but doesn't care how it is implemented.
> A GHC *developer* is someone who wants to work on GHC itself in some way.
>
> The current mailing lists:
>
> * glasgow-haskell-users: for anything that a GHC *user* cares about
> * glasgow-haskell-bugs: same, but with a focus on bug reporting

I see glasgow-haskell-bugs as being mainly for developers, who want to
see what bugs are coming in.

It's true that we do give e-mailing it as a (less preferred) way for
users to submit a bug on
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/ReportABug
but I wonder if we shouldn't change that. It's rare that we get a bug
report e-mailed, and normally we ultimately end up creating a trac
ticket for it anyway. I'm sure that people who really want to submit a
bug report and for whatever reason can't use trac will e-mail it
somewhere sensible.

Thanks
Ian

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