now I understand. I’ve created a Trac ticket.  Shouldn’t be hard.

                http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/4201

Thanks

 

Simon

 

 

From: glasgow-haskell-users-bounces@haskell.org [mailto:glasgow-haskell-users-bounces@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Louis Wasserman
Sent: 13 July 2010 17:46
To: Simon Peyton-Jones
Cc: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org
Subject: Re: Casting + eta reduction

 

Or a different way:

 

I want -fdo-lambda-eta-expansion (which, if I understand correctly, actually triggers eta *reduction*) to eliminate argument casts, as well.

 

My motivation:  I'm working on a generalized trie library, and due to http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/4185, I can't use GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving to minimize the overhead of a stack of about 20 newtypes, each with their own class instance, even if I wasn't trying to use Template Haskell, which currently has no syntax for doing GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving on multi-parameter type classes (it only derives single-argument type classes.)  As it stands, I have a lot of methods that compile to

 

foo f = bar (\ x -> f (x `cast` a))

 

and they stack 20 deep, which means I have to do 20 allocations (\ x -> f (x `cast` a)) for even the most simple methods.  What I'd like to see is this getting reduced to

 

foo  = bar `cast` (...)

 

which would reduce my overhead significantly.

 

Louis Wasserman

wasserman.louis@gmail.com
http://profiles.google.com/wasserman.louis

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Louis Wasserman <wasserman.louis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mmmm, let's give a slightly different example:  

 

foo :: Foo -> Int

foo (Foo a) = a + 1

 

bar :: Int -> Int

bar = foo . Foo

 

and I'd expect bar to be replaced with (foo `cast` (Int -> Int)) and inlined, eliminating an allocation.  In general, we'd get the equivalent of the no-allocation versions of GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving instances, so long as we could write them out for ourselves.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj@microsoft.com> wrote:

It compiles to

 

lift f d = f (d `cast` blah)

 

which seems fine to me.  Are you unhappy with that?

 

Simon

 

From: glasgow-haskell-users-bounces@haskell.org [mailto:glasgow-haskell-users-bounces@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Louis Wasserman
Sent: 09 July 2010 03:30
To: glasgow-haskell-users@haskell.org
Subject: Casting + eta reduction

 

Consider

 

newtype Foo = Foo Int

 

lift :: (Int -> a) -> Foo -> a

lift f (Foo x) = f x

 

Now, I'd expect this to compile with -O2 down to something like

 

lift f = f `cast` (Foo -> a)

 

but it doesn't.

 

It seems that GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving assumes that these two things *are* equivalent, and it just directly casts the class dictionary.  The implication would be that that GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving gives more efficient instances than you could *possibly* get if you wrote them by hand, which is very sad.