hello,
I second the choice of gitit, if only to follow eat your own dog food principle. but gitit is also a really great piece of software. 

I have really no strong advice on whether or not the wiki should be part of Haskell.org. but whatever the choice, I will definitely support this initiative as much a I can : I feel sad the French community is not much more vibrant (of course, this particular language space is occupied by ocaml In France), and will try to contribute a things or two I have been working on.


Arnaud

Le 21 sept. 2011 à 16:20, Valentin ROBERT <valentin.robert.42@gmail.com> a écrit :

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 16:01, Eric Y. Kow <eric.kow@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:00:26 +0200, Valentin ROBERT wrote:
> http://lyah.haskell.fr

Excellent

> http://haskell.fr

On this particular topic, someone asked me why I did not reuse the FR part of Haskell wiki. That's a reasonable question in my opinion.

We have this page: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Fr/Haskell

Now, is it feasible, and okay, to create a French sub-wiki inside Haskell Wiki? What would be the advantages, and inconvenients? If we wanted to, I could just have haskell.fr redirect there.

I am actually not satisfied with the wiki I created, for instance syntax highlighting with the presence of links is a huge pain, as you might notice if you read the sources... and not automated at all... I'd be happy to test Gitit and switch to it if it makes sense.

Concerning the integration or separation with HaskellWiki:

* Integration
(+) Everything is in the same place
(+) We can link english articles from the French ones when there's no translation
(+) We benefit from the work that was done on HaskellWiki (the design, the syntax highlighting)
(-) When people go to the home page, it's all English again!
(-) Lack of visibility (it's actually not trivial to find the page I linked up there...)
(-) We inherit the flaws of HaskellWiki (as you mentioned, maybe use another wiki engine)
(?) How feasible is it? Should all our pages be into a fr namespace or something in these lines?

* Separation
(+) We are free to do things differently
(-) We're separated from haskell.org, which is the reference place

Well, I'd be happy to discuss this further. As you said, it's still fresh enough that I'm okay with moving everything elsewhere or restarting from zero.

- Valentin Robert

Since you're starting from fresh, it would be great if the wiki
were running Gitit instead of Mediawiki.  Advantages:

- Markdown is used in many places
- You can have a Git/Darcs repository behind this

See http://wiki.darcs.net for an example of this in action.

Would be great if Haskell wiki were also running Gitit but that's
a potentially a tougher nut to crack

--
Eric Kow <http://erickow.com>

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