So I heard back from softwarefreedom.org, and they're looking for a representative from haskell.org to talk to them, as they want to avoid conflict-of-interests with other clients.

Does anyone with any "official status" want to talk to real lawyers about this issue, then let the list know of anything interesting that was said? Let me know.

  - Clark


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> wrote:
Ketil Malde <ketil@malde.org> wrote:
>In particular when copyright is concerned, I believe that verbatim
>copying in many cases will require a license to the original work, but
>merly examining the original work to make use of algorithms, tricks,
>and
>structures from it will not.

If you don't actually copy any of the text in the latter case, that would be correct. But there's an incredible amount of grey between those two extremes of black and white, and it's possible that you've unintentionally recreated significant bits of the original.

The Oracle/Google lawsuit was all about those shades of grey - some of the API's in Dalvik were implemented by people who had read the Java sources. Oracle claimed as much as possible was derivative, Google that none of it was. The judge ruled that some uses were infringing and some uses were not. This was a technically literate judge - he ruled that one of the cases was non-infringing because he could trivially implement the function in Java himself.

The lawyer who pointed out the possible infringement here isn't really worried about losing such a lawsuit - there are lots of ways to deal with that short of actually releasing any sources they consider proprietary. They want to avoid the lawsuit *at all*, as that will almost certainly be more expensive than losing it. At least, that's what I hear from clients who ask me not to include GPL'ed software.

   <mike
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