I recommend posting this question to StackOverflow and hoping that Conor McBride notices it.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:46 AM Clinton Mead <clintonmead@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Erik and All

I don't think "indexed-core" is what I'm looking for. "indexed-code" refers to the following type:

> (a :-> b) -> f a :-> f b

Where:

> type (:->) a b = forall i. a i -> b i

This effectively makes the result of the functor:

> (forall i1. (a i1 -> b i1)) -> (forall i2. (f a i2 -> f b i2))

But what I want is subtly different:

> (forall i. (a i -> b i)) -> f a -> f b

Indeed, with my code, "f a i" doesn't make much sense as "f a" itself is of type *. 

What I'd find useful is something like the following:

> class HighFunctor f where
>   hfmap :: (forall a. t a -> u a) -> f t -> f u

> class HighFunctor2 f where
>   hfmap2 :: (forall a. t a -> u a -> v a) -> f t -> f u -> f v

> class HighFunctorMaybe f where
>   hfmapMaybe :: (forall a. Maybe (t a) -> u a) -> Maybe (f t) -> f u

> class HighFunctor2Maybe1 f where
>   hfmap2maybe1 :: (forall a. Maybe (t a) -> u a -> v a) -> Maybe (f t) -> f u -> f v
>   
> class HighFunctor2Maybe2 f where
>   hfmap2maybe2 :: (forall a. t a -> Maybe (u a) -> v a) -> f t -> Maybe (f u) -> f v

> class HighFunctor2MaybeBoth f where
>   hfmap2maybeBoth :: (forall a. Maybe (t a) -> Maybe (u a) -> v a) -> Maybe (f t) -> Maybe (f u) -> f v

As you can see. I'm basically hacking up with separate classes what can be done easily with applicative, and it's getting a bit messy. I've been trying to clean this up, so I don't need so many different functions for different combinations of maybes, by defining these helper functions:

> data Transform outerT innerT a = Transform (outerT (innerT a))

> transformIn :: outerT (f innerT) -> f (Transform outerT innerT)

> transformOut :: Transform outerT innerT a -> outerT (innerT a)
> transformOut (Transform x) = x

By applying "transformIn" to an argument on the way in to hfmapN, and "transformOut" on the way out, one can pass through maybes to the standard top to non-maybe "HighFunctor" instances. 

But note that whilst "transformOut" is always trivial to implement, the way in, "transformIn" doesn't seem trivial. "transformIn" I think has to be implemented for each combination of "outerT" and "f", like so:

> class TransformIn outerT f where
>   f :: outerT (f innerT) -> f (Transform outerT innerT)

Anyway, the point of all this is that I'd like to be able to just launch my base functions (over the "forall i" space) into these higher level datatypes that wrap the foralls up in a datatype, in a similar way I can do so with functor and applicative. 

I think the code in the first post is the best illustration of what I'm trying to achieve but with two added things:

1. The ability to deal with multiple arguments in an applicative style <$> <*> way
2. The ability to promote "wrapped" types, I think kind of in a way "traversable" does.

Sorry if this all is a bit vague, but hopefully the code in the first post and this gives the gist of what I'm trying to achieve.

Any help or ideas appreciated.

Thanks,

Clinton

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Erik Hesselink <hesselink@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the keyword you're looking for might be 'indexed', although that also seems to be used for something different (two indices for pre and post conditions). Your functor seems to be in 'index-core' [0], and probably other places (it seems there was something in category-extras but it's unclear where it went).

Regards,

Erik

On 7 July 2017 at 06:48, Clinton Mead <clintonmead@gmail.com> wrote:
Consider the illustrative code below: 

{-# LANGUAGE GADTs #-}
{-# LANGUAGE DataKinds #-}
{-# LANGUAGE KindSignatures #-}
{-# LANGUAGE RankNTypes #-}
{-# LANGUAGE PolyKinds #-}
{-# LANGUAGE StandaloneDeriving #-}
{-# LANGUAGE UndecidableInstances #-}

data Param = Param1 | Param2

data T (p :: Param) where
  TInt :: Int -> T Param1
  TInteger :: Integer -> T Param1
  TBool :: Bool -> T Param2

data U (p :: Param) where
  UDouble :: Double -> U Param1
  UString :: String -> U Param2
  
data F (t :: Param -> *) where
  F :: t Param1 -> t Param2 -> F t
  
f :: T a -> U a
f (TInt x) = UDouble (fromIntegral x)
f (TInteger x) = UDouble (fromIntegral x)
f (TBool x) = UString (show x)

class MyFunctor f where
  myFmap :: (forall a. t a -> u a) -> f t -> f u
  
instance MyFunctor F where
  myFmap f (F x1 x2) = F (f x1) (f x2)

deriving instance Show (U a)
deriving instance (Show (t Param1), Show (t Param2)) => Show (F t)

main = print $ myFmap f (F (TInt 42) (TBool False))

Basically this is a sort of "higher order" functor, but I can't seem to fit it into an ordinary functor. 

But it seems like I'm reinventing the wheel, as my code is suspiciously like `Functor` but only slightly different. 

Has this sort of class already been created and if so what package is it in?



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