On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Tikhon Jelvis <tikhon@jelv.is> wrote:
Note how the provided code enables a bunch of language extensions, most
notably UndecidableInstances. (Yep, that's exactly what it sounds like!)
It's quite far removed from standard Haskell or full type inference.
Yes. One thing that I now know is that, to date, there is a
clean separation of estimation of the type of a function from the
next stage of the GHC pipeline. In particular you cannot see in
the Core code for the function the effect of the extensions,
except possibly, whether or not any code is produced.
I say "know", but all I have done is look at the high level
explanations. I have not looked at any compiler code. So my
understanding is not good and likely to be largely mistaken.
oo--JS.
I should have in my first post distinguished "inference" from
"checking". I believe checking is still decidable, but inference
no longer is, if you call GHC with given options.
oo--JS.
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On Sep 12, 2014 4:30 PM, "Brandon Allbery" <allbery.b@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Jay Sulzberger <jays@panix.com> wrote:
But this is impossible! The type system of Haskell can be
handled by a Hindley-Milner-Damas style type checker. Such a
type checker always comes to a halt with a Yea or Nay answer. So
one cannot get a simulation of the combinators S, K, I inside the
Haskell type system.
What have I misunderstood? And, in case GHC really does now
handle stuff beyond the HMD horizon, what does the New Core
language look like?
Standard Haskell is (or was) H-M extended with typeclasses. GHC moved
beyond that years ago; internally it's System Fw (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_F#System_F.CF.89), and its Core
language reflects this.
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