(Btw, I blame gmail for the mangled title ;-) -- it's been doing some weird stuff recently on Safari for me; but only in the subject line.  I think there were backspace characters in an edit that weren't applied.)

The permuted indices are interesting.  It means really committing to the style/naming conventions, doesn't it?  In common lisp, hyphen separated names and I guess camel-case for Haskell.  Though you could split on underscores *or* camel case...

I think multiple ways of indexing the data never hurts (except by confusing the user a bit).  On that common lisp page I especially like how they've indented the words.  Frankly I'd like a search box in any interface that displays more than two thingamajigs.  That should be a UI commandment.

I was expecting the objection of wasted server bandwidth for very large indices.  I wasn't so worried about the client (even mobile) case.  People can always press escape if a load takes too long.  And it only happens if they manually drill down into "All".  Perhaps a good idea would be to follow the convention used elsewhere and have a link with a size warning -- "All Entries (1.6 MB HTML)."  That should keep people from clicking on it with their smartphone :-).  I can tweak it again to do that if people like.

Cheers,
  -Ryan



On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Thomas Schilling <nominolo@googlemail.com> wrote:
For packages with many items in the index, these pages can get a bit
huge.  How about a permuted index like
<http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/X_Symbol.htm>?

E.g., for your use case, you would go to E and then the row with all
the "End" entries, which would contain all the names with "End"
anywhere in their name.

I don't know if page size can be a problem, but at least for mobile or
otherwise low-bandwidth devices this can be a nice alternative.

On 24 October 2010 04:41, Ryan Newton <newton@mit.edu> wrote:
> When I encounter a split-index (A-Z) page it can be quite frustrating if I
> don't know the first letter of what I'm searching for.  I want to use my
> browser find!  For example, tonight I wanted to look at all the functions
> that END in "Window" in the Chart package -- no luck:
>   http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/Chart/0.13.1/doc/html/doc-index.html
> Therefore I propose that even when generating the "A-Z" individual pages
> that there also be an "All" option for the single-page version.  Attached is
> a patch against haddock's HEAD (darcs get http://code.haskell.org/haddock/
> right?) that implements this behavior.  As an example, here is FGL's
> documentation built with the patched haddock:
>   http://people.csail.mit.edu/newton/fgl_example_doc/doc-index.html
> The great thing about hackage being centralized is that if people are happy
> with this fix it can be widely deployed where it counts, and quickly!
> Cheers,
>    -Ryan
> P.S. At the other end of the spectrum, when considering a central index for
> all of hackage (as in the below ticket) maybe it would be necessary to have
> more than 26 pages,  I.e. Aa-Am | An-Az or whatever.
>     http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/ticket/516#comment:6
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