On 7/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andrew Coppin</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:andrewcoppin@btinternet.com">andrewcoppin@btinternet.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I was wittering on about stream fusion and how great it is, and I got a<br>message from Mr C++.<br><br>(Mr C++ develops commercial games, and is obsessed with performance. For<br>him, the only way to achieve the best performance is to have total
<br>control over every minute detail of the implementation. He sees Haskell<br>is a stupid language that can never be fast. It seems he&#39;s not alone...)<br><br></blockquote></div><br>Just a random observation: the competition for Haskell is not really C or C++.&nbsp; C is basically dead; C++ is only really useful when you dont want people to be able to read your source code.&nbsp; Java comes close to being competition, but it&#39;s slow and eats memory (except in benchmarks where it somehow does quite well).
<br><br>The competition for Haskell is C#, which runs at 80% C++ speed, has a really decent interface into legacy C libraries, has a garbage collector, bounds checking, decent debug messages.<br><br><br>