On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Jerzy Karczmarczuk <jerzy.karczmarczuk@unicaen.fr> wrote:

For me, opposing experience and education is simply silly.

Probably more than 70% of all people would learn much faster on their own than at school. But, learn WHAT? :

1. Probably less than 1% would guess correctly what they SHOULD learn, and
2. in general they will not be able to assess their own knowledge...

Very good points

Haskell kneads the avant garde type-hackery stuff with classical (Hindley-Milner) functional programming very seamlessly. For the programing-pro this is a joy and a thrill. The beginner however can get completely unnerved that misplacing a bracket or forgetting an argument gives error messages involving type classes, suggestions turning on/off arcane compiler options etc etc.

FWIW I have a list of points/items trying to address this issue:

http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html

Please note this is work-in-progress: additions/modifications are appreciated.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Roman Cheplyaka <roma@ro-che.info> wrote:

Compared to an academic career, you'll have a more "real" goal of making
good software (instead of publishing papers). Also, this experience will
be much more relevant for your future job.

Yes... CS academics delivers less than it could/should;
and whatever this delivery is, its asymptotically sub-linear.
Some of it is to do with the not-quick-enough takeup of FP in academia, though there are obviously many other factors as well.

http://blog.languager.org/2011/02/cs-education-is-fat-and-weak-1.html
and sequel is about this: how we are not getting over the quirks of the past history of CS in present day teaching. Here too suggestions for modifications/ change of emphasis are appreciated.

Rusi
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