On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM, John Lato <jwlato@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd like to thank everyone who replied to my OP, and also perhaps
clarify one point. I wasn't trying to be argumentative or negative
about any work people have done to make Haskell approachable for OO
programmers (or any other programmers, for that matter). I simply
wanted to know what others thought about one item that was misleading
to me in particular, and to see if others either agreed with me or had
similar experiences.

That being said, I know that it's a great deal of work to put together
a useful tutorial, and I appreciate every one I read. Especially the
monad tutorials, of which it took a half dozen before I got it.

I've read a lot of the Monad tutorials, and I feel like I only get "most of it" to be 100% honest. The State Monad still boggles my mind a little bit. I understand what it's supposed to do and I get the idea about how it works. It's just that when I look at the implementation of >>= for it, I want to crawl into a corner and nibble my fingers.

Ok, it's not that bad, but I'll admit I've gone cross-eyed a few times trying to keep all that state in my head about what's REALLY going on there. Perhaps if it were pulled apart step by step I'd have a better understanding.

I even tried to implement it once, and failed, however, I never seem to fail to be able to *use* it if someone already implements it for me :-). Kind of like how I know how to operate a car, but I wouldn't trust driving one that I built :-)

Dave