On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Ryan Trinkle <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ryan.trinkle@ipwnstudios.com">ryan.trinkle@ipwnstudios.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi guys,<div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t think this licensing issue will be a problem for us.  It&#39;s not clear to me that our game violates this new term, and we certainly don&#39;t violate any of the principles Steve Jobs used to justify it.  If Apple wants to reject our app, they already have a variety of excuses at their disposal, as they&#39;ve demonstrated on many occasions.  Frankly, it&#39;d be their loss; Android is now the fastest-growing smartphone market, and we&#39;ll be more than happy to focus on it (and other friendlier markets) if Apple&#39;s not interested in having our product on their platform.</div>
</blockquote><div><br>Steve Jobs has been quite clear that apps written in other languages, even ones that are interpreted in, compiles down to or otherwise generate objective c source code, don&#39;t comply with the changes in section 3.3.1 of their license, so I&#39;m not sure that you have much of a case.<br>

<blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><p>“We’ve been there before, and intermediate layers between
 the platform and the developer ultimately produces sub-standard apps 
and hinders the progress of the platform.”<br></p></blockquote><div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;" id="TixyyLink">
Read more:  <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-iphone-sdk-complaints-intermediate-layers-produce-sub-standard-apps/#ixzz0p3gfoNZI">http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-iphone-sdk-complaints-intermediate-layers-produce-sub-standard-apps/#ixzz0p3gfoNZI</a><br>
</div><br>Haskell definitely qualifies as an &#39;intermediate layer&#39;, just like MonoTouch, and just like the Flash-to-Objective-C compiler that provoked the original response from Apple.<br><br><a href="http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/04/steve-jobs-response-a-brief-followup/">http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/04/steve-jobs-response-a-brief-followup/</a><br>
<br>Heck, even libraries that may contain scripting and modeling utilities like Unity3d are in jeopardy, due to this cockamamie restriction, which threatens to send the art of level design and game programming for the iphone technologically clear back into the early 90s, though at least there they appear to be treading lightly, since Unity has been useful in providing the iphone with a lot of high end content.<br>
<br><a href="http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/7408/is-unity3d-banned-by-new-apple-sdk-licence">http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/7408/is-unity3d-banned-by-new-apple-sdk-licence</a><br><br>But, there are other numerous discussions floating around in the blogosphere involving previously approved applications written in scheme (even compiled via objective c), c#, or other middleware languages having their applications removed from the app store. <br>
<br>So, sadly, I think your chances of shipping your a title written in Haskell on the iPhone are shot to hell.<br><br>-Edward Kmett<br></div><div><br></div></div>