For symmetry I agree both should probably be renamed.

What are the current breaking changes? 

I gather from the discussion that State is no longer separate from StateT, along with Reader, Writer, RWS, Error, mutatis mutandis to obviate the need for both a base monad and transformer.

I guess the question is then, when should code start looking to changing their dependencies over to monads-tf and monads-fd? 

A cleanly demarked cut over would be useful to get us out of this limbo state that helps nobody.

-Edward Kmett

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Ross Paterson <ross@soi.city.ac.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:09:07AM -0500, Edward Kmett wrote:
> I like that transformers is Haskell 98 and presents a common core. I
> think that factoring it out is a laudable goal.
>
> However, my very problem is that monads-fd and monads-tf are mutually
> incompatible. It fragments the community of monad combinator users
> even further.
>
> If monads-fd sat in the existing location of mtl or was exported there
> by an mtl compatibility layer and monads-tf used a different namespace
> then you would have a clean solution in which both could be used in
> the same code, because both could be loaded.

The proposal is to make the next version of mtl a near-compatibility layer
over monads-fd and transformers; it doesn't involve monads-tf directly.
We could just rename all the modules in monads-tf (which aimed to mirror
mtl-tf), or perhaps rename the modules in both monads-fd and monads-tf.
Perhaps we should trim both packages to just the class modules (the others
are re-exports mirroring mtl) and relocate those in the module hierarchy:

   Control.Monad.Cont.Class
   Control.Monad.Error.Class
   Control.Monad.RWS.Class
   Control.Monad.Reader.Class
   Control.Monad.State.Class
   Control.Monad.Writer.Class

They both have the same Cont class; it need not be duplicated.
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