Le 14/04/2015 02:20, Nicola Squartini a écrit :
Solving the problem of pandoc and gitit binaries taking so much space, would require splitting the packages in two. Right now haskell-pandoc and haskell-gitit are packaged with binaries and modules inside, and the module part depend on all the other packages, including GHC. If we split each of them into two, say pandoc (binaries) and haskell-pandoc (modules), then you could just install the binaries without having to depend on GHC.
Thanks, that's the information I was looking for. I hadn't understood that pandoc and gitit could be split in different parts from their regular installation instructions. How does one do so? Le 14/04/2015 14:10, Magnus Therning a écrit :
The reasons we don't do that sort of splitting are two: [...] 2. splitting into -bin and -dev packages, like in Debian/Ubuntu/..., isn't the norm in Arch
Maybe not -bin and -dev then, but something has to give. I didn't see anything against it in the packaging standards. We can liaise with the core team to find out the Arch-y way for this issue.
We don't really have to include the core team at all. ArchHaskell isn't an official part of Arch so we can do what we want. However, following the path of least surprise would suggest we don't stray too far away from the Arch way.
I thought I had read a post from one Arch dev stating splitting in a Debian-like fashion wasn't supported, but I cannot find it right now. The closest I got is the "comparison with Debian" section of the wiki [1] which says:
Arch generally packages software libraries together with their header files, whereas in Debian header files have to be downloaded separately.
It also links to a forum thread exposing the very question of -dev packages in Arch [2], where we can read:
Arch does not split packages the way some other distributions do. Anything with '-dev' at the end will most often be found in the base package.
1. The tool that helps with packaging `clbrepo` doesn't support it, and most importantly
Maybe it is a call for looking into such support. Haskell packages are huge! There has to be a significant population of users which want a lean & mean machine. It takes about 900 MiB of installation size for haskell-conduit. Addressing this will help with adoption.
Patches are always welcome. :)
As much as I'd like to get the very few Haskell packages I need without installing the whole platform, I appreciate Magnus' and Nicola's efforts to maintain the two repos and understand this isn't a priority. I can't provide patches because I'm not a programmer but I'll support such an initiative with what else is needed. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_compared_to_other_distributions#De... [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=179481