2008/11/15 Don Stewart :

I've a longer discussion prepared, but would like to also start a discussion about 2009 goals for the Haskell support on our distro.

Sometimes we need to package haskell packages which have their dependencies in AUR. I suppose for most common Haskell applications, the dependencies will be taken care of by having haskell-platform installed, but it would be nice to have some way of having the dependency auto-updated in the case it has to be added to [community] manually. BTW, what happened to the x86_64 repository for Haskell packages? As vegai mentioned, it is certainly not neccessary to have all packages of Haskell packaged :) But it can be done easily now, we just need a server to build the packages. At least Haskell PKGBUILDs should continue to be uploaded to AUR. -- Abhishek

2008/11/15 Gour :

Solution for everything would be to have hacman (or pinky as suggested in #arch-haskell) - wrapper for pacman written in Haskell, using libalpm and enhanced to use cabal-install.

What about other automated systems for installing stuff? It would be nice to have them too and not be restricted to just Haskell: * RubyGems (gem install...) * PyPi (don't know if there's automated installer here as well) * Perl (cpan, though Firmicus has a script to convert them to PKGBUILDs) A generic API to which these kind of installation systems could be added as modules would be really cool.

Some advantages would be:

1) all the deps would be (hopefully) properly resolved by using cabal-install

2) the hacman (pinky) would be (hopefully) more robust and feature-wise than yaourt

Such a tool in Haskell would be really nice. I've not much idea of Haskell, but it is indeed beautiful... I just can't wrap my head around functional programming much. Simple programs are OK, but anything a bit more complicated makes me run back to Python :)

3) hacman (pinky) could be used by non-haskell users exposing to to the wonderful land of Haskell (e.g. there is nice himerge GUI for Gentoo written in Haskell), i.e Real-World-Haskell used for system admin

4) no need for cabal2arch 'cause we would use *.cabal descriptions directly from Hackage

5) single tool to handle all Arch-related system tasks

One tool to rule them all One tool to bring them to Arch And in simplicity bind them. :D -- Abhishek

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AUR is now up to date. cabal2arch is working with 6.10/new cabal. * xmonad 0.8.1 this week * move 6.10 from testing * cabal-install in binary form

fantastic work everyone. arch is on its way to becoming the best platform for haskell developers. as always, let me know if you need help brad -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklreRUACgkQxRg3RkRK91M05QCeKAAX0hOBIBHpcAPFzbe/Hap2 sj4AniZuTZCig3pSQHPTo1E9wsKBwXQ5 =Ep+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

* cabal-install in binary form

This is now for the most part done: I added haskell-zlib, haskell-http, haskell-cabal and cabal-install to the community svn repo. I'll upload the binaries as we move to ghc-6.10. Your locally installed cabal-install and cabalized packages probably will conflict with these. --vk