On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:21, Peter Simons wrote:

Hi Magnus,

according to Don you have received the password for the arch-haskell account on AUR. I was wondering how you plan to use that account? Are you going to share the password with others?

Yes, I have received the passwords, and yes I intend to share them with others. I'm still not sure exactly *how* to do this though. So far my concentration has been on getting some infrastructure in place: • archhaskell as organisation on github • getting all the source packages into a git repo in some sane layout (see my email from earlier today) • putting up the source for archlinus and cabal2arch on github Currently my thinking is that I'll share passwords with people who get added to the github organisation... but that just shifts the problem one step, as I still haven't decided what criteria to use for adding people there. :-) All suggestions are welcome!

In any case, I notice that the e-mail address for the user points to this list now, which is a good idea, IMHO. Are we sure that e-mails directed to that list are actually being posted here? In the past, it seemed that this list is closed, i.e. only subscribers can post. How does that work when AUR is trying to send us e-mail, such as when a package has been flagged out of date?

Hmm, good questions indeed. Please go ahead and add a comment to some AUR package, then we ought to see if emails arrive as they should. Otherwise I guess we'll have to work out how to relax the rules on the list server. /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On 2010/10/12 Peter Simons wrote:

 > Currently my thinking is that I'll share passwords with people who  > get added to the github organisation... but that just shifts the  > problem one step, as I still haven't decided what criteria to use for  > adding people there. :-) All suggestions are welcome!

In the current stage of the project, I believe that everyone who is interested in maintaining Haskell packages on AUR should have the ability to do that. We can be more selective once we're overrun with volunteers.

I still think haskell packages on AUR should be removed very soon, there is no point in flooding AUR wth auto-generated packages. Moreover, if anyone finds problems in PKGBUILDs which are not mere updates, he/she should probably consider it as a bug in cabal2arch or an upstream bug and should report it as such.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:27, Peter Simons wrote:

Hi Magnus,

 > Yes, I have received the passwords, and yes I intend to share them  > with others.

very good. I, for one, would be interested in having access to AUR. There are a few PKGBUILDs I'd like to update -- most importantly haskell-convertible-text.

Please give me a little more time (2 days, max) to get the new infrastructure up. Having AUR change now would force me to re-do some of the preparation steps.

 > • archhaskell as organisation on github

I tried to join that organization on Github, but I couldn't figure out how to do it in the web front-end. Am I missing something? Or do you have to add users to the organization? If that's the case, my user name on Github is 'peti'.

Yes, you need to be added by an administrator, currently that's only me.

 > Currently my thinking is that I'll share passwords with people who  > get added to the github organisation... but that just shifts the  > problem one step, as I still haven't decided what criteria to use for  > adding people there. :-) All suggestions are welcome!

In the current stage of the project, I believe that everyone who is interested in maintaining Haskell packages on AUR should have the ability to do that. We can be more selective once we're overrun with volunteers.

Yes, I tend to agree... on the other hand I would like to see us get off AUR as soon as possible, but in my mind that can only happen once we have at least one tool that can grab packages out of our ABS tree (yes, 'bauerbill' I'm looking in your direction ;-).

 > Please go ahead and add a comment to some AUR package, then we ought  > to see if emails arrive as they should. Otherwise I guess we'll have  > to work out how to relax the rules on the list server.

I left a comment on haskell-convertible-text moments ago. It appears that it didn't get through. Who has access to the mailing list server configuration? Did Don share those passwords as well? I would assume that the message is being held up in some kind of moderation queue.

I don't have access to it. I know Don has access to that server, since he has sorted out an issues I've reported in the past. It also houses the other haskell mailing lists (cafe, beginners, libs, etc). /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:47, Peter Simons wrote:

Hi Magnus,

 >>> Yes, I have received the passwords, and yes I intend to share them  >>> with others.  >>  >> very good. I, for one, would be interested in having access to AUR.  >> There are a few PKGBUILDs I'd like to update -- most importantly  >> haskell-convertible-text.  >  > Please give me a little more time (2 days, max) to get the new  > infrastructure up. Having AUR change now would force me to re-do some  > of the preparation steps.

I see. Please know that I'd really like to make some progress on that front. The broken PKGBUILD for haskell-convertible-text prevents me from building hledger-full, and it has done that for several weeks now.

The repo is up on github already, please create a fork, make and test your changes, then create a pull request.

 >>> • archhaskell as organisation on github  >>  >> I tried to join that organization on Github, but I couldn't figure out  >> how to do it in the web front-end. Am I missing something? Or do you  >> have to add users to the organization? If that's the case, my user name  >> on Github is 'peti'.  >  > Yes, you need to be added by an administrator, currently that's only  > me.

Could you please add my user 'peti' to that organization?

Please let me make this first push to AUR, simply because I need a little experience with it myself :-) /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:23, Peter Simons wrote:

Hi Magnus,

 > The repo is up on github already, please create a fork, make and test  > your changes, then create a pull request.

it's done.

The updated package has been uploaded to AUR. /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 15:55, Peter Simons wrote:

Hi Magnus,

 > The updated package has been uploaded to AUR.

thank you. As it happens, the disappearance of this build error just revealed the next one. I have pushed an update for "haskell-data-object-json" to github and created a pull request.

Pulled in github, and pushed to AUR. I see you have a few more lined up in your repo. I'll add you to the members when I get home tonight so you can do the pulling yourself :-) /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On 12/10/10 17:35, Don Stewart wrote: [...]

Emails from AUR have always gone to arch-haskell@, however, the AUR daemon isn't subscribed to the list, so they go into the admin queue.

Looking into this ...

I put the list as the email address for the github organisation I created[1], so I assume that any emails that sent due to actions on github. I don't know what that might be though, maybe notifications for pull requests? Would you see if there have been any emails sent github and in that case allow those onto the mailing list too? /M [1] http://github.com/archhaskell -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe