On Oct 1, 2012 10:39 PM, "Fabio Riga" wrote:

Hi Magnus,

is there a reason for dropping those packages? If some package fail to build in ghc 7.6 we will lost as well many packages in [haskell-extra].

The only reason is that they require non-obvious patches to build with GHC 7.6.

I'm concerned especially about gtk, pandoc and wai/warp: they are needed for packages like hakyll, gitit and the yesod suite among others.

Indeed, and especially removal of pandoc pains me a bit.

If there aren't important reasons to switch to 7.6, could you please wait a little more before make this change?

The goal is of course to re-add them ASAP. I don't mind waiting longer, but then I'm very unlikely to do any updates to [haskell], and instead put my efforts into [haskell-testing]. /M

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:24:54PM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote:

On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 10:39:08PM +0200, Fabio Riga wrote:

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Hi Magnus,

is there a reason for dropping those packages? If some package fail to build in ghc 7.6 we will lost as well many packages in [haskell-extra]. I'm concerned especially about gtk, pandoc and wai/warp: they are needed for packages like hakyll, gitit and the yesod suite among others.

If there aren't important reasons to switch to 7.6, could you please wait a little more before make this change?

I've just finished building glib/pango/gtk for x86_64, so this is getting to be less and less of an issue :)

With the recent announcement of GHC making it into [testing]/[community-testing] there ought to be a few more patches to "steal" for use in [haskell].

Since I've now added all the packages you list above, except for pandoc, I'll make the push of GHC 7.6 on Wednesday. I plan to move [haskell] to [haskell-old] and [haskell-testing] to [haskell]. I'll keep [haskell-old] around on kiwilight for a week or so, unless I get requests for keeping it longer. Now is the time to raise any objections and convince me to hold off further :-) /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. -- Alan Kay

On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 02:43:22AM +0200, Fabio Riga wrote:

Alle 20 e 40 del 07/10/12, Magnus Therning si espresse così:

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Since I've now added all the packages you list above, except for pandoc, I'll make the push of GHC 7.6 on Wednesday. I plan to move [haskell] to [haskell-old] and [haskell-testing] to [haskell]. I'll keep [haskell-old] around on kiwilight for a week or so, unless I get requests for keeping it longer.

Now is the time to raise any objections and convince me to hold off further :-) For me it's ok, but since I don't know when I'll have time to rebuild (and see what works) in [haskell-extra], I think I'll take a copy of [haskell-old].

Is there a place where you will put the cblrepo.db, like github? I need it in order to build [haskell-extra].

I've so far kept the changes in a private branch, but will push them to github ASAP, hopefully today. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid with millions of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but just done by brute force and thousands of slaves. -- Alan Kay

2012/10/12 Magnus Therning

The transition has been made. [haskell-old] will be kept around until the missing packages are re-added to [haskell].

Thank you for this. I should have some time in the next week to update [haskell-extra]. In the meantime, if somebody (like me) have some package from [haskell-extra] installed has 3 choices: 1. Wait until I'm done for any pacman -Syu 2. Remove the offending packages to use ghc-7.6 and to update system. 3. Ask Magnus where [haskell-old] is. At least you can update core packages. For me only (3) is reasonable. So Magnus, where is [haskell-old]? Thanks, Fabio

Disregard previous mail; I'm assuming I just misunderstood the earlier mail. old must be the former testing. Correct me if I'm offbase otherwise ignore. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Ethan Schoonover wrote:

haskell-testing seems to have dropped offline ( http://www.kiwilight.com/haskell/testing/$arch ) around the same time that haskell-old appeared. Is this because GHC 7.6 is in the main repo now? Or unrelated events?

Thanks, Ethan Schoonover es@ethanschoonover.com http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Ramana Kumar wrote:

As far as I understand it, old is the former haskell, and haskell is the former testing.

That is completely correct! /M

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ethan Schoonover wrote:

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Disregard previous mail; I'm assuming I just misunderstood the earlier mail. old must be the former testing. Correct me if I'm offbase otherwise ignore.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Ethan Schoonover wrote:

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haskell-testing seems to have dropped offline ( http://www.kiwilight.com/haskell/testing/$arch ) around the same time that haskell-old appeared. Is this because GHC 7.6 is in the main repo now? Or unrelated events?

Thanks, Ethan Schoonover es@ethanschoonover.com http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized

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I'm now removing [haskell-old] since those last packages which prompted it's creation now have been added to [haskell]. If who's still using [haskell-old] has any problems in moving to [haskell] I'd like to hear about it on this list. /M On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Ethan Schoonover wrote:

Yeah, sorry about that confusion on my part. FWIW I am *really* happy with the new life in these repos. I am using them with my fire-and-forget archblocks installer now and I get xmonad up and running with no trouble at all.

Thanks for all this hard work, Magnus, et al.

Cheers, Ethan

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

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On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Ramana Kumar wrote:

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As far as I understand it, old is the former haskell, and haskell is the former testing.

That is completely correct!

/M

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