Hi Magnus,

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* packages provided by GHC are no longer listed as dependencies

I strongly disagree with this one, I'd rather see the dependency list continue to include the meta-packages provided by the ghc package.

Remy has put time and effort into developing that feature, and it's been in Git for almost two weeks. Now, you disagree strongly. Could you please describe how you intend to resolve the current situation? Would you like Remy's patches revoked? And if that is the case, exactly which ones? What do you suggest we do? Take care, Peter

Hi Magnus,

The situation now is that 'cabal2arch' (or rather 'archlinux') again knows what packages are provided by the 'ghc' package. Resulting in a list that has to be maintained by a person who isn't intimately involved in packaging 'ghc' [...]. AFAICS this also forces a re-release of cabal2arch when the list of core packages changes.

you are right, this is a very convincing reason to list all dependencies, including those on standard libraries. I understand those changes were pushed to 'master' by accident; so I suggest we revert them. I am still in favor of dropping the comment about 'provides', though, because IMHO the issue yahourt had with that feature has been fixed; 'provides' should not cause any trouble for anyone anymore. Eventually, we might even consider replacing the dependency on "ghc" with, say "haskell-compiler", and have "ghc" provide that. This change would open the door for supporting other compilers transparently. Take care Peter

On 01/11/10 17:22, Rémy Oudompheng wrote:

On 2010/11/1 Peter Simons wrote:

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Hi Magnus,

...

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* packages provided by GHC are no longer listed as dependencies

I strongly disagree with this one, I'd rather see the dependency list continue to include the meta-packages provided by the ghc package.

Remy has put time and effort into developing that feature, and it's been in Git for almost two weeks. Now, you disagree strongly. Could you please describe how you intend to resolve the current situation? Would you like Remy's patches revoked? And if that is the case, exactly which ones? What do you suggest we do?

Sorry, I never intended to do anything like this: I only wanted to put the list of dependencies which should be eliminated in a separate file. It only happened that I wanted (locally on my machine) to include base packages (like haskell-containers) into the list of dependencies that should be eliminated, and that change got commited to the main repository by accident some days ago, as I said in another mail.

This change is still subject to discussion.

No worries. I think we all have made the same type of mistake (and I sure have made some rather more serious ones). It seems to me that Peter is leaning towards the same opinion as me, so unless you still have strong opinions to keep this list in 'archlinux' would you mind reverting the code to once again generate the full list of dependencies (i.e. make use of ghc's extended list of provides)? You are very familiar with the code in 'archlinux' by now, so it'll probably be easiest for you to revert the change yourself. Is that all right with you, Remy? /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 07:42, Rémy Oudompheng wrote:

On 2010/11/1 Magnus Therning wrote:

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It seems to me that Peter is leaning towards the same opinion as me, so unless you still have strong opinions to keep this list in 'archlinux' would you mind reverting the code to once again generate the full list of dependencies (i.e. make use of ghc's extended list of provides)?

You are very familiar with the code in 'archlinux' by now, so it'll probably be easiest for you to revert the change yourself.  Is that all right with you, Remy?

I commented the relevant part of "ghc-provides.txt", reverting it back to its former state.

Cool! :-) /M -- Magnus Therning                        (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org          Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus         identi.ca|twitter: magthe