Re: [Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

Coupled with auto-correction that you don't see until after you send... On 2 March 2015 at 13:08, Julian Birch wrote:

Yes, sorry, the perils of typing URLs out on your phone... :)

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote:

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PS: Did you mean stackage .ORG not .COM

On 2 March 2015 at 13:04, emacstheviking wrote:

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Plunk! (penny drops) I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake! Thanks again Julian.

On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch wrote:

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If you go to www.stackage.com/lts/1.10, you'll find a hoogle search box. It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote:

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What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I don't understand what you mean by "they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as excited as everybody else right now! LOL :)

On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch wrote:

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It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library. :)

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote:

> Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight > Looks AWESOME if it does what it says! > Getting excited about Haskell again. > THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :) > > > On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch > wrote: > >> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell >> may help you. I described how to use it here: >> >> >> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-applicat... >> >> Hope someone finds it useful. >> >> J >> >> >> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote: >> >>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding >>> the assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to >>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make >>> sure it's available to Joe Public please! >>> >>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that >>> works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time >>> savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together! >>> >>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell ! >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant >>>> (much) here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating >>>> people is not a good way to get help. >>>> >>>> But: >>>> >>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have >>>> always been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However >>>> good and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat >>>> and potatoes development unless there is a good supply of >>>> packages/libraries. >>>> >>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to >>>> install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a >>>> bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines >>>> of API documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all >>>> there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and >>>> "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just >>>> the equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I >>>> think. >>>> >>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book >>>> about Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least >>>> he realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software. >>>> >>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for >>>> sure. It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next >>>> stop will be sml or ocaml. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> - DJ - >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote: >>>> >>>> I feel your pain... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of >>>>> frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language >>>>> today, and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run >>>>> into the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real >>>> shame. Those with better education and understanding than mine should be >>>> concerned that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager. >>>> >>>> I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) >>>> of group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that >>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad >>>>> now as they were when I left ;-) >>>>> >>>>> This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here >>>> for some time to come... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Beginners mailing listBeginners@haskell.orghttp://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Beginners mailing list >>>> Beginners@haskell.org >>>> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from an iPhone, please excuse brevity and typos. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners@haskell.org >> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> >> >

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