Re: [Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

Yes, sorry, the perils of typing URLs out on your phone... :) On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote:

PS: Did you mean stackage .ORG not .COM

On 2 March 2015 at 13:04, emacstheviking javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sean@objitsu.com');> wrote:

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Plunk! (penny drops) I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake! Thanks again Julian.

On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julian.birch@gmail.com');> wrote:

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If you go to www.stackage.com/lts/1.10, you'll find a hoogle search box. It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sean@objitsu.com');> wrote:

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What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I don't understand what you mean by "they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as excited as everybody else right now! LOL :)

On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch wrote:

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It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every library. :)

On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote:

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Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight Looks AWESOME if it does what it says! Getting excited about Haskell again. THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)

On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch wrote:

> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell > may help you. I described how to use it here: > > > http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-applicat... > > Hope someone finds it useful. > > J > > > On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking wrote: > >> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding >> the assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to >> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make >> sure it's available to Joe Public please! >> >> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that >> works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time >> savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together! >> >> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell ! >> >> :) >> >> >> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ wrote: >> >>> Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant >>> (much) here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating >>> people is not a good way to get help. >>> >>> But: >>> >>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always >>> been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good >>> and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and >>> potatoes development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries. >>> >>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to >>> install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a >>> bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines >>> of API documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all >>> there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and >>> "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just >>> the equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I >>> think. >>> >>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about >>> Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he >>> realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software. >>> >>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for >>> sure. It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next >>> stop will be sml or ocaml. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> - DJ - >>> >>> >>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote: >>> >>> I feel your pain... >>> >>> >>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of >>>> frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language >>>> today, and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run >>>> into the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not >>>> work. >>>> >>>> It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real >>> shame. Those with better education and understanding than mine should be >>> concerned that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager. >>> >>> I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) >>> of group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that >>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths! >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad >>>> now as they were when I left ;-) >>>> >>>> This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for >>> some time to come... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beginners mailing listBeginners@haskell.orghttp://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beginners mailing list >>> Beginners@haskell.org >>> http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>> >>> >> > > -- > Sent from an iPhone, please excuse brevity and typos. > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@haskell.org > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >

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