Hi, I'm looking for one book that explains programming in Haskell. Is there a book that explains everything? It appears that there are many books, but each book is ~200 pages and each explains only basics. I'm looking for one big complete book. (Something like "Thinking in C++" or "C++ How to program" but in Haskell). Emanuel

Hi Emanuel I haven't read the "Thinking in C++" so I can't compare it with any haskell resource but here are some links which you can use for learning 1. http://learnyouahaskell.com/chapters 2. http://book.realworldhaskell.org/ On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Emanuel Koczwara

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Hi,

I'm looking for one book that explains programming in Haskell. Is there a book that explains everything? It appears that there are many books, but each book is ~200 pages and each explains only basics. I'm

If you are interested in NLP so try this one http://nlpwp.org/book/index.xhtml. You can see more detailed list on Haskell wiki http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Learning_Haskell. Mukesh

looking for one big complete book. (Something like "Thinking in C++" or "C++ How to program" but in Haskell).

Emanuel

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Hi,

No, because it would be bigger than you could lift and would contain a lot of stuff you probably don't care about (are you really interested in how Haskell interacts with category theory? As a working programmer, are you interested in exploring the outer corners of type theory?)

I know "Learn You a Haskell" and "Real World Haskell". They are very helpful, but there is number of topics not covered by these books. I want to learn Haskell in finite time, but having infinite number of resources will not help (books, wiki pages, tutorials, blogs, articles, I'm probably overestimating, but this is how it looks from beginner perspective). After "Learn You a Haskell" and "Real World Haskell" I was jumping from topic to topic at Wiki. And it blows my mind, I don't know what I don't know, and this is very bad. So I have a list of topics that I'm aware of, and I need to study them: Arrows Continuation passing style Existentially quantified types Generalised algebraic data-types Functional reactive programming Data structures (not lists, not maps and not binary trees, data structures in general) Dynamic types Heterogenous collections Phantom types Template Haskell Functional dependencies But I'm afraid that many things will be untouched with that approach. For example I've found that map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] is really map :: forall a b. (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b], I've found ~ (in pattern matching) and I've found a way to set a field with record syntax (val { feld1 = 'a', field2 = 0}). All this by clicking random links on wiki and google. The problem is, I don't have a roadmap. I was looking for a book that describes all what I need to know, and it points out everything what I need or could learn. If such a book doesn't exist, where can I find a list (finite) of "must read" resources to fully understund Haskell (or at last in 80%)? Emanuel

Hi,

I know "Learn You a Haskell" and "Real World Haskell". They are very helpful, but there is number of topics not covered by these books.

Yes. Haskell touches on a *lot* of things, and it's not even remotely practical to try to digest all of them, especially as a beginner. You do not want to do this, and you do not *need* to do this.

I want to learn Haskell in finite time, but having infinite number of

Finite time means you're not going to learn everything, sorry. The world is bigger than you are.

I want to focus on Haskell not the whole world ;) I've seen "Faith, Evolution, and Programming Languages" (by Philip Wadler), he is talking about possible universes and logic ("I can't imagine a universe where modus ponens doesn't work..." - something like that), aliens and other cool stuff :D. And it looks like they are "discovering" Haskell rather than "developing" it. Am I right? If so, it really can be infinite. Anyway, thanks for your response, I will stick to http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Learning_Haskell and I'll try to work out my learning roadmap. Emanuel

It's a little dated, but I've found this post on stackoverflow to be a useful roadmap: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1012573/getting-started-with-haskell On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Emanuel Koczwara wrote: that), aliens and other cool stuff :D. And it looks like they are "discovering" Haskell rather than "developing" it. Am I right? If so, it really can be infinite.

Haskell is simultaneously a production language and a functional programming research language, yes; it is expanding all the time. Even if by some chance you could learn everything currently known about it, the endpoint will have moved in the meantime. (This is why the Platform, intended for practical development, does not track the most recent GHC; *that* is intended for the research folks, may not be production-level stable, and will only make its way into the Platform for production folks to use later. Or sometimes not at all, as with ghc 7.2.x.)

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Hi Emanuel Added some links which I know but I would suggest to follow the links on Haskell wiki. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Emanuel Koczwara

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Hi,

...

No, because it would be bigger than you could lift and would contain a lot of stuff you probably don't care about (are you really interested in how Haskell interacts with category theory? As a working programmer, are you interested in exploring the outer corners of type theory?)

I know "Learn You a Haskell" and "Real World Haskell". They are very helpful, but there is number of topics not covered by these books.

I want to learn Haskell in finite time, but having infinite number of resources will not help (books, wiki pages, tutorials, blogs, articles, I'm probably overestimating, but this is how it looks from beginner perspective).

After "Learn You a Haskell" and "Real World Haskell" I was jumping from topic to topic at Wiki. And it blows my mind, I don't know what I don't know, and this is very bad. So I have a list of topics that I'm aware of, and I need to study them:

Arrows

http://ertes.de/new/tutorials/arrows.html http://www.cse.chalmers.se/~rjmh/afp-arrows.pdf

Continuation passing style

http://www.haskellforall.com/2012/12/the-continuation-monad.html http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/Continuation_passing_style

Existentially quantified types

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/Existentially_quantified_types

Generalised algebraic data-types

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell/GADT

Functional reactive programming Data structures (not lists, not maps and not binary trees, data structures in general)

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/theses/okasaki.pdf

Dynamic types Heterogenous collections Phantom types Template Haskell Functional dependencies

But I'm afraid that many things will be untouched with that approach. For example I've found that map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] is really map :: forall a b. (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b], I've found ~ (in pattern matching) and I've found a way to set a field with record syntax (val { feld1 = 'a', field2 = 0}). All this by clicking random links on wiki and google. The problem is, I don't have a roadmap. I was looking for a book that describes all what I need to know, and it points out everything what I need or could learn.

If such a book doesn't exist, where can I find a list (finite) of "must read" resources to fully understund Haskell (or at last in 80%)?

Emanuel

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