I would only be engaging in slight hyperbole if I said, "Stack changed my life." :) On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:43 PM, DJ wrote:

On 16-01-11 06:31 PM, Michael Litchard wrote:

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Welcome Back!

Word on the street is to not use Haskell Platform. Make your life easier by using stack. https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/blob/master/doc/GUIDE.md

Ah, cool thanks. I'll check it out.

An acquaintance mentioned something about this to me a few days ago, but I didn't know what he was talking about so it didn't register.

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"Use stack" is one solution but the Haskell Platform is alive and well too. Your distro has an old version of the HP but the current HP has a recent GHC. Tom

El 11 ene 2016, a las 23:02, Dan Stromberg escribió:

FWIW, that's kind of an old Mint. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_Mint_releases

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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:18 PM, DJ wrote: Getting back to Haskell after giving up three years ago.

I am running Linux Mint 17.1.

Why is the Haskell Platform for linux (or my distro anyway) stuck at 2013? I see that ghc is several versions newer than what comes with Haskell Platform. That seems like a rather severe lag.

Why is that? Does it matter?

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DJ, FWIW: The policies of the various OS-level package managers tend to make it difficult for maintainers to update packages frequently. Taking Ubuntu as an example, packages in ubuntu repos stay at the same version for *the entire release cycle* of the Ubuntu release that they are on unless a newer version is backported via the backport repository. In practice, this generally means that most packages are up to 6 months out of date most of the time—and packages on older releases can be *years* out of date. (Other distros such as Arch use a rolling release model that effectively means that packages tend to get update every few weeks rather than every few quarters.) For any software whose rate of change exceeds the rate of change allowed for by the release cycle or other maintenance practices of your distro, it's best to seek alternate sources if you intend to use latest versions. The general strategy for acquiring newer versions of software through your OS-level package manager is to find alternative repositories. For Ubuntu, this means the use of PPAs. However, if you combine the difficulty in installing the latest HP with the fact that it has more or less fallen into disfavor with the introduction of Stack, which manages its own installation separately from your OS-level package manager, the best solution for most people is probably just to use Stack at this point. On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:15 PM DJ wrote:

On 16-01-11 11:12 PM, amindfv@gmail.com wrote:

"Use stack" is one solution but the Haskell Platform is alive and well too. Your distro has an old version of the HP but the current HP has a recent GHC.

Tom

Right - thanks for pointing that out. I see that I can download a current one from the "generic" link on the HP page. No doubt that is what I should use if I stick with HP.

Now I am left to wonder why package maintainers are so far behind on Ubuntu and Mint. Which I actually don't care enough about to find the answer, since I have two options.

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