I agree with you that the phrasing could be better. On 2016-08-30 22:47, umptious wrote:

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Each monad, or computation type<<

That seems to be saying that monad and "computation type" are synonyms. But surely this is just bad writing? A monad is a CT, but a CT doesn't have to be a monad? And what is the point of adding the verbiage of "computation type" in what will be a massive sentence anyway?

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provides means, subject to /*Monad Laws*/,<<

I think it's expected that monads will follow monad laws and provide means to do something.. That's clear post priori. That is, obviously, if there are "Foo Laws",

What they seem to be trying to convey here is that each monad represents a type of computation. E.g. the list monad represents nondeterministic computation, the Maybe monad represents failable computation, the Either monad represents computations that may throw exceptions, etc. Basically, the point here is to present the weird and abstract "monad" in terms of the more familiar and intuitive notion of "computation". The word "type" here refers to the intuitive sense, and not the type-theoretic/programmer's sense IIUC. then we'd expect Foos to satisfy them. If it was clear to you at the onset, good for you! You're well on your way to developing the mindset used in many libraries (e.g. pipes/conduit, lens, etc.) which is to approach any new concept with the question "What laws must it satisfy?" I assume the second half of your remark is pure snark. (Statement necessary due to difficulty distinguishing snark from questions)

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to /*(a)*/ /create/ a description of computation action that will produce (a.k.a. "return") a given Haskell value<<<

This is just bizarre. The monad can create a description of a computation action? What does that mean - a comment is a description - does it mean that? And does it mean the description will do the returning or that the computation action will? And why say "means" instead of something more specific and meaningful (for example, I'm guessing the means might be a function..) An example would make it easier to see what is meant, in my opinion.

Consider the definitions

data State s a = Return a | Get (s -> State s a) | Set s (State s a) instance Functor (State s) where fmap f (Return a) = Return a fmap f (Get t) = Get (\s -> fmap f (t s)) fmap f (Set s n) = Set s (fmap f n) instance Monad (State s) where return = Return Return a >>= f = f a m >>= f = fmap (>>= f) m get = Get Return set s = Set s (Return ()) modify f = get >>= \s -> set (f s) runState (Return a) _ = a runState (Get t) s = runState (t s) runState (Set s n) _ = runState n s

sum = runState go 0 where go [] = get go (x:xs) = modify (+x) >> go xs Note, however, that `State` only *describes* a stateful computation. We could do other things with the value returned by `go` (e.g., count

With these definitions in hand, we can write programs such as: the amount of modifications to the global state). In other words, the point is that monads can be seen as describing a program in a language with semantics wildly different from Haskell's, where at the end of the day we interpret the program using whichever interpreter is most useful to us. Hence, despite Haskell being pure and functional, we can write code that makes use of e.g. pointer manipulation, randomness, nondeterminism, etc. In fact, the fact that in Haskell we have `main :: IO a` means that the value of `main` is the "program text" of some imperative program that gets passed to GHC's runtime system, which is capable of interpreting this imperative program. It is in this sense, if I'm not mistaken, that Simon Peyton-Jones refers to Haskell as the "world's finest imperative programming language"[0]. I hope this will reduce confusion, rather than create it. Gesh [0] - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/mark.pdf