Lujvo forming with cmavo rafsi

Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this is due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong. {ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra? I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a tanru as the basis. -- Alex R

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this is due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong.
{ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra?
I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a tanru as the basis.
Me neither. You probably need to use zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms. -Brent

ki'asai
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Brent Yorgey
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this is due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong.
{ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra?
I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a tanru as the basis.
Me neither. You probably need to use zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms.
-Brent
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I have never understood less about what's going on.
-deech
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn
ki'asai
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Brent Yorgey
wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this is due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong.
{ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra?
I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a tanru as the basis.
Me neither. You probably need to use zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms.
-Brent
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I think brent's reply was making fun of me and didn't have much meaning
beyond that.
If there was any part of my question you did not understand, feel free to
point out a specific part, and I'll try my best to clarify.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:15 PM, aditya siram
I have never understood less about what's going on. -deech
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn
wrote: ki'asai
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Brent Yorgey
wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 11:52:13AM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this
is
due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong.
{ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra?
I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a tanru as the basis.
Me neither. You probably need to use zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms.
-Brent
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-- Alex R
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Alex, I think you might have better luck on one of the Lojban forums: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lojbanic+Forums

On Thursday 03 February 2011 20:17:36, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
If there was any part of my question you did not understand, feel free to point out a specific part, and I'll try my best to clarify.
The entire part between the first 'S' and the last 's' inclusive? You know, it might help if you used a language spoken by more than a handful. From the look of it, I suspect it might be lojban, but I can't be sure.

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 02:17:36PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
I think brent's reply was making fun of me and didn't have much meaning beyond that.
Yes, I was poking some light-hearted fun at you for sending (mistakenly, I presume) a lojban question to a Haskell mailing list. =) -Brent

...
I meant to email "lojban-beginners"
Apologies.
mea culpa
I hope you all got a good laugh at my expense.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Brent Yorgey
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 02:17:36PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
I think brent's reply was making fun of me and didn't have much meaning beyond that.
Yes, I was poking some light-hearted fun at you for sending (mistakenly, I presume) a lojban question to a Haskell mailing list. =)
-Brent
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On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 04:32:04PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
mea culpa
Hmm, more lojban, eh? ;) Seriously, no need to apologize, it was an innocent mistake and we all do stuff like this on occasion. At least I know I do.
I hope you all got a good laugh at my expense.
The funniest part (to me) was that you didn't realize what you had done even when lots of people on the "lojban-beginners" mailing list were very confused. =) Anyway, since we are already off-topic, I will highly recommend the book "Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error", by Kathryn Schulz (for everyone, not just you) which gives some fascinating perspectives on incidents such as this one. -Brent
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Brent Yorgey
wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 02:17:36PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
I think brent's reply was making fun of me and didn't have much meaning beyond that.
Yes, I was poking some light-hearted fun at you for sending (mistakenly, I presume) a lojban question to a Haskell mailing list. =)
-Brent
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To me the funniest part was that it reminded me of when I first started learning Haskell and reading this list. Most of the messages on this list were just as incomprehensible (to me). In fact, until I noticed the reference to TV tropes, I assumed this was something to do with category theory or some other area of maths that I don't know anything about yet.

From my perspective, one person was just being a bit silly at me, and one person had no idea what I was talking about (I assumed it was someone who was subscribed but hadn't been actively learning).
Then I didn't check my email for the next three messages.
So it wasn't exactly "lots of people".
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Brent Yorgey
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 04:32:04PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
mea culpa
Hmm, more lojban, eh? ;) Seriously, no need to apologize, it was an innocent mistake and we all do stuff like this on occasion. At least I know I do.
I hope you all got a good laugh at my expense.
The funniest part (to me) was that you didn't realize what you had done even when lots of people on the "lojban-beginners" mailing list were very confused. =)
Anyway, since we are already off-topic, I will highly recommend the book "Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error", by Kathryn Schulz (for everyone, not just you) which gives some fascinating perspectives on incidents such as this one.
-Brent
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Brent Yorgey
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 02:17:36PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
I think brent's reply was making fun of me and didn't have much
meaning
beyond that.
Yes, I was poking some light-hearted fun at you for sending (mistakenly, I presume) a lojban question to a Haskell mailing list. =)
-Brent
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participants (5)
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aditya siram
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Alex Rozenshteyn
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Amy de Buitléir
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Brent Yorgey
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Daniel Fischer