
Hi all, A few IPs were hammering http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB today which (is probably what) caused abbot to become inaccessible. /srv/trac/hackage/db/trac.db is 613MB, which seems rather suspicious: /srv/trac/ghc/db/trac.db is only 359MB. I wonder if it is full of spam? I'm also not able to load http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB?action=history (it just times out). Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled? Thanks Ian

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ian Lynagh
Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled?
The Cabal bug tracker is already on GitHub: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues

On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 09:43:34AM -0800, Johan Tibell wrote:
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ian Lynagh
wrote: Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled?
The Cabal bug tracker is already on GitHub: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues
But not the wiki, right? Or are you saying there is nothing useful left in trac? Thanks Ian

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ian Lynagh
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 09:43:34AM -0800, Johan Tibell wrote:
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ian Lynagh
wrote: Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled?
The Cabal bug tracker is already on GitHub: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues
But not the wiki, right? Or are you saying there is nothing useful left in trac?
The wiki hasn't been moved (and at least I have no plans to move it).

On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 04:53:47PM +0000, Ian Lynagh wrote:
Hi all,
A few IPs were hammering http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB today which (is probably what) caused abbot to become inaccessible.
/srv/trac/hackage/db/trac.db is 613MB, which seems rather suspicious: /srv/trac/ghc/db/trac.db is only 359MB. I wonder if it is full of spam? I'm also not able to load http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB?action=history (it just times out).
Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled?
There was a spike of accesses to the hackage trac around the time that abbot became unresponsive this morning. I've disabled the trac. Thanks Ian

Hi Ian, There's lots of stuff in the trac that still doesn't live anywhere else, and references to it in the README and docs. Are we planning to migrate that content anywhere else? Are we planning to use trac in future? I'd be happy to help move stuff off trac wiki to github wiki, if that's what we decide is best. See also: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/1204 https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/1211 thanks, Ben On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:09:49PM +0000, Ian Lynagh wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 04:53:47PM +0000, Ian Lynagh wrote:
Hi all,
A few IPs were hammering http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB today which (is probably what) caused abbot to become inaccessible.
/srv/trac/hackage/db/trac.db is 613MB, which seems rather suspicious: /srv/trac/ghc/db/trac.db is only 359MB. I wonder if it is full of spam? I'm also not able to load http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/hackage/wiki/HackageDB?action=history (it just times out).
Could someone take a look please? Or perhaps the Cabal wiki should be moved elsewhere (github?) and the trac instance disabled?
There was a spike of accesses to the hackage trac around the time that abbot became unresponsive this morning. I've disabled the trac.
Thanks Ian
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On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 12:59 +0000, Ben Millwood wrote:
There's lots of stuff in the trac that still doesn't live anywhere else, and references to it in the README and docs.
Are we planning to migrate that content anywhere else? Are we planning to use trac in future?
I'd be happy to help move stuff off trac wiki to github wiki, if that's what we decide is best.
See also:
https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/1204 https://github.com/haskell/cabal/pull/1211
I have re-enabled the trac. I deleted the 100k spam wiki changes and compacted the database. I also removed the WIKI_MODIFY permission from authenticated users. I've given you WIKI_ADMIN permissions so that you can move things to the github wiki. Duncan

Hi everyone, I've finished moving most of the Trac wiki pages on Cabal to the new github wiki. I've drafted a new home page of sorts here: https://github.com/haskell/cabal/wiki It doesn't link to much because the work is far from done! Many of the pages I migrated were ancient, some need someone to edit and update them to reflect current affairs, some need possibly to be disposed of entirely. Someone who knows about each article's content should have a look over them and make some executive decisions. See https://github.com/haskell/cabal/wiki/Migration-from-trac if you think you can be of help. In my opinion, some things which were wiki pages before should go in the user's guide, like https://github.com/haskell/cabal/wiki/Upgrading-tests , and the wiki should be used for resources for developers, rather than resources for users.If you think I am wrong about what the wiki should be used for, then that's fine: I have no authority or expertise of any kind, so just go ahead and change it :) Regards, Ben

Hi Ben,
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Ben Millwood
Hi everyone,
I've finished moving most of the Trac wiki pages on Cabal to the new github wiki.
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 03:11:42AM +0100, Ben Millwood wrote:
I've finished moving most of the Trac wiki pages on Cabal to the new github wiki.
Thanks Ben! We should remove the trac at some point, or the two out-of-sync copies of the same information will cause confusion. Should we do that now, or is there still stuff you want to migrate in the trac? Thanks Ian

There's a whole bunch of Hackage stuff that hasn't been moved yet. I'm expecting Hackage to get its own wiki, since it has its own source repository, but I don't know what the plan on that front is exactly. On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 05:28:05PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 03:11:42AM +0100, Ben Millwood wrote:
I've finished moving most of the Trac wiki pages on Cabal to the new github wiki.
Thanks Ben!
We should remove the trac at some point, or the two out-of-sync copies of the same information will cause confusion. Should we do that now, or is there still stuff you want to migrate in the trac?
Thanks Ian
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On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Ben Millwood
There's a whole bunch of Hackage stuff that hasn't been moved yet. I'm expecting Hackage to get its own wiki, since it has its own source repository, but I don't know what the plan on that front is exactly.
Thanks for all your hard work Ben. I believe the plan is to create https://github.com/haskell/hackage once Duncan is done. We'll move the Hackage wiki there. -- Johan
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