Lemmih writes:

On 5/2/06, Shae Matijs Erisson wrote:

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Isaac Jones writes:

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Welcome to the cabal-devel mailing list! I'm very please to see so many folks signed up already. I'll just re-post the release announcement that Duncan made below.

I've been hacking on minimizing the cabal-get requirements. I spoke to Bjorn Bringert, he split Network.Browser into its own package so that the Network.HTTP package no longer requires crypto.

Next steps for me are to minimize xml-rpc and its dependency, HaXml.

Why not cut the xml-rpc dependency completely? It should be an evening hack to replace it with, say, BEncode.

Shae also suggested getting rid of xml-rpc. I'm not totally against it, but it would be nice if folks could easily write clients! having a hackage-client packages is helpful here, but it doesn't help for other languages. Suggestions? peace, isaac

Lemmih writes:

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Shae also suggested getting rid of xml-rpc. I'm not totally against it, but it would be nice if folks could easily write clients! having a hackage-client packages is helpful here, but it doesn't help for other languages. Suggestions? Writing a BEncode parser is almost simpler than learning to use an XML-toolkit. Jokes aside, I think our convenience is paramount and inter-language integration should be secondary. If we can get this thing in the air then by all means lets do it and leave these issues to a later version.

I asked Isaac about this on irc, he said that xmlrpc keeps the complexity on the server. That way computing dependencies, efficient lookup over large sets, etc only depends on the clients knowing the names to call. I asked Isaac how cabal-get compared to apt (Isaac wrote part of apt-secure), he said that apt servers are simple but the client is extremely complex. Because of that there is only one client, and there likely won't be more. Isaac said he'd rather see simple clients and a complex server. Anyway, I think we should just 'get it in the air' as Lemmih put it. -- I've tried to teach people autodidactism, | ScannedInAvian.com but it seems they always have to learn it for themselves.| Shae Matijs Erisson