Dear all, The discussion on the generics list has become a bit quiet recently. I have been busy with teaching and other obligations, and I know reasons why other contributors have been busy as well recently. I want to pick up this work again in January. Not only because I find it interesting and useful, but also because Alexey Rodriguez is returning to Utrecht from an internship in Cambridge, and I have an MSc student that will start working on a common generic library in January as well. So I hope the discussion will start again next year! I support Pablo's suggestion to also address how the different libraries can deal with abstract data types. I'm not sure that the C++ STL is very relevant to this list. I'm probably oversimplifying, but I see the C++ STL as an approach to program against interfaces. But on the other hand, I would like to be able to use generic programs on, for example, abstract iterator types, so in that sense it is relevant. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Johan