I'm trying to understand the implications of this discussion in the current splitting off of SYB from base. In the division that was more or less agreed [1], the Data class and its uncontested instances would be kept in base, whereas the rest would go into a new syb package. The instances were traditionally orphans in Data.Generics.Instances, but it was suggested that they should now be moved into Data.Generics.Basics. This would make SYB free of orphans, but no longer offers a user the possibility of avoid the import of Data.Generics.Instances to define its own instances. It also invalidates some of the changes proposed in [1], namely caring about the imports of Data.IntMap, Data.IntSet, etc. So my question is: should Data.Generics.Instances indeed be folded into Data.Generics.Basics (which contains the Data class and associated stuff)? (Worth noting is that the instances that are moved to the syb package will remain orphans, but the idea is that those might change or disappear in the future.) Thanks, Pedro [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.haskell.libraries/9962/focus=9981