Re: Notes from Ben's "contribute to ghc" discussion

I'd be willing to help with work required to open up GHC development more along multiple lines including: Bots/automation for Github Talking to Rust devs about what works, what doesn't Talking to GHC devs about what works, what doesn't, comparing/contrasting with other processes such as Rust's Papering all this up into a "where we are, where we'd like to go" document Writing documentation and tutorials for getting new developers on board Manually on-boarding new developers I am willing to do this work in addition to my 9-5 work using Haskell, the book(s) which are a full-time job unto themselves, and the open source work I do. I will not do any of this as long as this is the attitude of GHC developers. I can not in good conscience encourage people to contribute to a project controlled and represented with such hostility and dismissiveness. The needs of the community and of new and casual contributors have to be taken seriously. This is not for their sake alone, it's to ease the workload of the maintainers and to mend the worsening culture gap. On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote:

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote:

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Why are you so hostile to Chris? I don’t think that this is an appropriate way to treat somebody who is making a suggestion in good faith.

It may be in good faith. but it's not in good sense. There is a lot in the background that made Rust's setup possible, and he's not bringing that to the table, just assuming it'll somehow happen or that everyone else will drop everything for the next few months and make it happen. And I feel like he's being really pushy about committing already overworked people to this --- and insisting that anyone opposed must have a hidden agenda or otherwise cannot possibly have good reason to be opposed. It's not helpful at all; it's basically a good way to stall ghc for the next few months at least.

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