Re: Why are nested brackets disallowed?

This typechecks: instance Lift a => Lift (Q a) where lift :: Q a -> Q Exp lift x = join (fmap lift x) And it looks correct. Do you agree? In general, it sounds like you've thought this through. To me, this doesn't rise to the need of a ghc-proposal; I would say to go for it. Richard

On Jan 25, 2019, at 6:56 AM, Matthew Pickering wrote:

I don't think that cross stage persistence will work as it is currently implemented which is probably why the check exists.

1. The normal case

foo x = [| x |] ===> foo x = [| $(lift x) |]

2. x is defined at stage 0, and used at stage 2.

One option is: foo x = [| [| x |] |] ===> foo x = [| [| $($(lift (lift x))) |] |] or foo x = [| [| x |] |] ===> foo x = [| let x' = $(lift x) in [| $(lift [| x' |]) |]

We need to think a bit how to `lift` something of type `Q Exp` because of the `Q` monad. Lifting an `Exp` seems trivial as it's a normal ADT (I tested and this works after deriving 40 instances).

You can define `lift2` which lifts an expression twice as follows.

``` lift2 :: Lift a => a -> Q Exp lift2 a = lift a >>= \e -> [| return $ $(lift e) |] ```

3. x is defined at stage 1 and used in stage 2

foo = [| \x -> [| x |] |] ===> foo = [| \x -> [| $(lift x) |] |]

Desugared with a single call to `lift` like normal.

4. x is defined in stage 2 and used in stage 1

foo = [| [| \x -> $(x) |] |]

Rejected just like usual. `x` won't be bound when the splice is run.

It seems that with some suitable care that things will work out when lifting across multiple levels but that is the point where care needs to be taken.

Matt

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 5:46 PM Richard Eisenberg wrote:

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I think Geoff was primarily concerned with typed Template Haskell, not the untyped variety.

I, too, have wondered if there was a technical reason behind this restriction, or if merely it was assumed that nested brackets were not worthwhile.

One question: how would staging work between nesting levels of brackets?

Richard

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On Jan 24, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Ben Gamari wrote:

Matthew Pickering writes:

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There is a check in `RnSplice` which errors on the following program with nested brackets.

It might be good to explicitly include Geoff Mainland in this thread. I'm not sure he'll see it otherwise.

Cheers,

- Ben

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