I can do testing on OS X. On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Ben Gamari wrote:

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Hello everyone,

We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3:

https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/

It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well.

In light of this it would seem that an -rc3 will likely be necessary.

Cheers,

- Ben

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I'm having trouble setting the make file flags to make the Mac build use the intree gmp. I'm going to dig into this a bit more this evening. On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Ben Gamari wrote:

Ben Gamari javascript:;> writes:

...

Ben Gamari javascript:;> writes:

...

Hello everyone,

We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3:

https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/

It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well.

Further testing suggests that perhaps the only issue is the out-of-date `configure` script. Mac OS X users with `autotools` installed should be able to run `./boot` in the source tree to bring `configure` up-to-date, at which point this release candidate should be buildable.

I'll cut an -rc3 with a fixed `configure` script today.

Cheers,

- Ben

nope, my error was a bad copy and paste :) heres a link to my build (uses the GCC style rts build, which should be more performant than the default clang one last i checked, also has html docs and should work OS X >= 10.7) https://www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com/opensource/ghc/releasebuild-unoff... (http:// also works) shasum -a512 ghc-7.10.2.20151105-x86_64-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 003a23929a17e9d01f52ef0a9388b6af51d409eda12627b20500c820f44da1e21976a46da7a50d040072cf5243a05d8f6a4344899fe3c2d8fb3f4f101ef29dce for those who want to check the check the sha sum On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:36 PM, George Colpitts wrote:

I get

make[1]: *** [libraries/integer-gmp2/gmp/gmp.h] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking assembler .cfi pseudo-op support... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... yes checking whether .eh_frame section should be read-only... expr: syntax error no checking for __attribute__((visibility("hidden")))... no checking that generated files are newer than configure... done configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating include/ffi.h config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating testsuite/Makefile config.status: creating man/Makefile config.status: creating libffi.pc config.status: creating fficonfig.h config.status: linking ../src/x86/ffitarget.h to include/ffitarget.h config.status: executing buildir commands config.status: create top_srcdir/Makefile guessed from local Makefile config.status: build in x86_64-apple-darwin (HOST=) config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing libtool commands config.status: executing include commands config.status: executing src commands # wc on OS X has spaces in its output, which libffi's Makefile # doesn't expect, so we tweak it to sed them out mv libffi/build/Makefile libffi/build/Makefile.orig sed "s#wc -w#wc -w | sed 's/ //g'#" < libffi/build/Makefile.orig > libffi/build/Makefile "touch" libffi/stamp.ffi.static-shared.configure make: *** [all] Error 2

Is that the same error you are getting?

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'm having trouble setting the make file flags to make the Mac build use the intree gmp. I'm going to dig into this a bit more this evening.

On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Ben Gamari wrote:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Hello everyone,

We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3:

https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/

It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well.

Further testing suggests that perhaps the only issue is the out-of-date `configure` script. Mac OS X users with `autotools` installed should be able to run `./boot` in the source tree to bring `configure` up-to-date, at which point this release candidate should be buildable.

I'll cut an -rc3 with a fixed `configure` script today.

Cheers,

- Ben

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Download works with http When I try to download your build using https I get This Connection is Untrusted You have asked Firefox to connect securely to www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified. What Should I Do? If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue. www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.s3.amazonaws.com, s3.amazonaws.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) If you understand what's going on, you can tell Firefox to start trusting this site's identification. Even if you trust the site, this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection. Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this site doesn't use trusted identification. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:

nope, my error was a bad copy and paste :)

heres a link to my build (uses the GCC style rts build, which should be more performant than the default clang one last i checked, also has html docs and should work OS X >= 10.7)

https://www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com/opensource/ghc/releasebuild-unoff...

(http:// also works)

shasum -a512 ghc-7.10.2.20151105-x86_64-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 003a23929a17e9d01f52ef0a9388b6af51d409eda12627b20500c820f44da1e21976a46da7a50d040072cf5243a05d8f6a4344899fe3c2d8fb3f4f101ef29dce

for those who want to check the check the sha sum

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:36 PM, George Colpitts

...

wrote:

...

I get

make[1]: *** [libraries/integer-gmp2/gmp/gmp.h] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking assembler .cfi pseudo-op support... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... yes checking whether .eh_frame section should be read-only... expr: syntax error no checking for __attribute__((visibility("hidden")))... no checking that generated files are newer than configure... done configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating include/ffi.h config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating testsuite/Makefile config.status: creating man/Makefile config.status: creating libffi.pc config.status: creating fficonfig.h config.status: linking ../src/x86/ffitarget.h to include/ffitarget.h config.status: executing buildir commands config.status: create top_srcdir/Makefile guessed from local Makefile config.status: build in x86_64-apple-darwin (HOST=) config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing libtool commands config.status: executing include commands config.status: executing src commands # wc on OS X has spaces in its output, which libffi's Makefile # doesn't expect, so we tweak it to sed them out mv libffi/build/Makefile libffi/build/Makefile.orig sed "s#wc -w#wc -w | sed 's/ //g'#" < libffi/build/Makefile.orig > libffi/build/Makefile "touch" libffi/stamp.ffi.static-shared.configure make: *** [all] Error 2

Is that the same error you are getting?

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'm having trouble setting the make file flags to make the Mac build use the intree gmp. I'm going to dig into this a bit more this evening.

On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Ben Gamari wrote:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Hello everyone,

We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3:

https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/

It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well.

Further testing suggests that perhaps the only issue is the out-of-date `configure` script. Mac OS X users with `autotools` installed should be able to run `./boot` in the source tree to bring `configure` up-to-date, at which point this release candidate should be buildable.

I'll cut an -rc3 with a fixed `configure` script today.

Cheers,

- Ben

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Why were you trying to do Haskell platform things ? This isn't a Haskell platform build. Just configure --prefix=blsh and then make install On Monday, November 9, 2015, George Colpitts wrote:

install into /opt works fine However the INSTALL file says

`make show-install-setup' prints the details of where the different pieces of the bundle are heading when -- possibly helpful

but this doesn't work:

make show-install-setup make: *** No rule to make target `show-install-setup'. Stop.

I installed in /opt as I didn't want to overwrite my current ghc. It would be nice if there was an uninstall target for make.

I removed /opt/bin/* and /opt/lib/* as there were only ghc files there. Then I did an uninstall-hs (uninstall of Haskell Platform) Then install into the default (/usr/local) I get:

/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 docs/man/ghc.1 "/usr/local/share/man/man1" install: /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [install_man] Error 71 make: *** [install] Error 2

I then did

ls -l /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 gcolpitts admin 81 Oct 11 17:35 /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1 -> /Library/Frameworks/GHC.framework/Versions/7.10.2-x86_64/usr/share/man/man1/ghc.1

then

rm /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1

and then "make install" worked

However cabal install hlint didn't work because it couldn't install text-1.2.1.3:

cabal install text ...

Data/Text.hs:203:8: Could not find module ‘Control.DeepSeq’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘deepseq-1.4.1.1@deeps_6vMKxt5sPFR0XsbRWvvq59’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:208:8: Could not find module ‘Data.Char’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:209:8: Could not find module ‘Data.Data’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:211:8: Could not find module ‘Control.Monad’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:212:8: Could not find module ‘Control.Monad.ST’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? ...

ghc-pkg list /usr/local/lib/ghc-7.10.2.20151105/package.conf.d: Cabal-1.22.4.0 array-0.5.1.0 base-4.8.2.0 bin-package-db-0.0.0.0 binary-0.7.5.0 rts-1.0 bytestring-0.10.6.0 containers-0.5.6.2 deepseq-1.4.1.1 directory-1.2.2.0 filepath-1.4.0.0 (ghc-7.10.2.20151105) ghc-prim-0.4.0.0 haskeline-0.7.2.1 hoopl-3.10.0.2 hpc-0.6.0.2 integer-gmp-1.0.0.0 pretty-1.1.2.0 process-1.2.3.0 template-haskell-2.10.0.0 terminfo-0.4.0.1 time-1.5.0.1 transformers-0.4.2.0 unix-2.7.1.0 xhtml-3000.2.1

ghc-pkg check

Similar problems with cabal install vector

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carter.schonwald@gmail.com');> wrote:

...

nope, my error was a bad copy and paste :)

heres a link to my build (uses the GCC style rts build, which should be more performant than the default clang one last i checked, also has html docs and should work OS X >= 10.7)

https://www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com/opensource/ghc/releasebuild-unoff...

(http:// also works)

shasum -a512 ghc-7.10.2.20151105-x86_64-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 003a23929a17e9d01f52ef0a9388b6af51d409eda12627b20500c820f44da1e21976a46da7a50d040072cf5243a05d8f6a4344899fe3c2d8fb3f4f101ef29dce

for those who want to check the check the sha sum

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:36 PM, George Colpitts < george.colpitts@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','george.colpitts@gmail.com');> wrote:

...

I get

make[1]: *** [libraries/integer-gmp2/gmp/gmp.h] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking assembler .cfi pseudo-op support... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... yes checking whether .eh_frame section should be read-only... expr: syntax error no checking for __attribute__((visibility("hidden")))... no checking that generated files are newer than configure... done configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating include/ffi.h config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating testsuite/Makefile config.status: creating man/Makefile config.status: creating libffi.pc config.status: creating fficonfig.h config.status: linking ../src/x86/ffitarget.h to include/ffitarget.h config.status: executing buildir commands config.status: create top_srcdir/Makefile guessed from local Makefile config.status: build in x86_64-apple-darwin (HOST=) config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing libtool commands config.status: executing include commands config.status: executing src commands # wc on OS X has spaces in its output, which libffi's Makefile # doesn't expect, so we tweak it to sed them out mv libffi/build/Makefile libffi/build/Makefile.orig sed "s#wc -w#wc -w | sed 's/ //g'#" < libffi/build/Makefile.orig > libffi/build/Makefile "touch" libffi/stamp.ffi.static-shared.configure make: *** [all] Error 2

Is that the same error you are getting?

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carter.schonwald@gmail.com');> wrote:

...

I'm having trouble setting the make file flags to make the Mac build use the intree gmp. I'm going to dig into this a bit more this evening.

On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Ben Gamari javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ben@well-typed.com');> wrote:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

> Hello everyone, > > We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3: > > https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/ > It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well.

Further testing suggests that perhaps the only issue is the out-of-date `configure` script. Mac OS X users with `autotools` installed should be able to run `./boot` in the source tree to bring `configure` up-to-date, at which point this release candidate should be buildable.

I'll cut an -rc3 with a fixed `configure` script today.

Cheers,

- Ben

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I understand this isn't a Haskell Platform thing. I just uninstalled the Haskell Platform before installing the binary as I wanted to make sure I didn't have a mixture of both on my machine Before doing the last make install I had done: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Carter Schonwald

wrote:

Why were you trying to do Haskell platform things ? This isn't a Haskell platform build. Just configure --prefix=blsh and then make install

On Monday, November 9, 2015, George Colpitts wrote:

...

install into /opt works fine However the INSTALL file says

`make show-install-setup' prints the details of where the different pieces of the bundle are heading when -- possibly helpful

but this doesn't work:

make show-install-setup make: *** No rule to make target `show-install-setup'. Stop.

I installed in /opt as I didn't want to overwrite my current ghc. It would be nice if there was an uninstall target for make.

I removed /opt/bin/* and /opt/lib/* as there were only ghc files there. Then I did an uninstall-hs (uninstall of Haskell Platform) Then install into the default (/usr/local) I get:

/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 docs/man/ghc.1 "/usr/local/share/man/man1" install: /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [install_man] Error 71 make: *** [install] Error 2

I then did

ls -l /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 gcolpitts admin 81 Oct 11 17:35 /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1 -> /Library/Frameworks/GHC.framework/Versions/7.10.2-x86_64/usr/share/man/man1/ghc.1

then

rm /usr/local/share/man/man1/ghc.1

and then "make install" worked

However cabal install hlint didn't work because it couldn't install text-1.2.1.3:

cabal install text ...

Data/Text.hs:203:8: Could not find module ‘Control.DeepSeq’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘deepseq-1.4.1.1@deeps_6vMKxt5sPFR0XsbRWvvq59’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:208:8: Could not find module ‘Data.Char’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:209:8: Could not find module ‘Data.Data’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:211:8: Could not find module ‘Control.Monad’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? Use -v to see a list of the files searched for.

Data/Text.hs:212:8: Could not find module ‘Control.Monad.ST’ Perhaps you haven't installed the profiling libraries for package ‘base-4.8.2.0’? ...

ghc-pkg list /usr/local/lib/ghc-7.10.2.20151105/package.conf.d: Cabal-1.22.4.0 array-0.5.1.0 base-4.8.2.0 bin-package-db-0.0.0.0 binary-0.7.5.0 rts-1.0 bytestring-0.10.6.0 containers-0.5.6.2 deepseq-1.4.1.1 directory-1.2.2.0 filepath-1.4.0.0 (ghc-7.10.2.20151105) ghc-prim-0.4.0.0 haskeline-0.7.2.1 hoopl-3.10.0.2 hpc-0.6.0.2 integer-gmp-1.0.0.0 pretty-1.1.2.0 process-1.2.3.0 template-haskell-2.10.0.0 terminfo-0.4.0.1 time-1.5.0.1 transformers-0.4.2.0 unix-2.7.1.0 xhtml-3000.2.1

ghc-pkg check

Similar problems with cabal install vector

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:

...

nope, my error was a bad copy and paste :)

heres a link to my build (uses the GCC style rts build, which should be more performant than the default clang one last i checked, also has html docs and should work OS X >= 10.7)

https://www.wellposed.com.s3.amazonaws.com/opensource/ghc/releasebuild-unoff...

(http:// also works)

shasum -a512 ghc-7.10.2.20151105-x86_64-apple-darwin.tar.bz2 003a23929a17e9d01f52ef0a9388b6af51d409eda12627b20500c820f44da1e21976a46da7a50d040072cf5243a05d8f6a4344899fe3c2d8fb3f4f101ef29dce

for those who want to check the check the sha sum

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:36 PM, George Colpitts < george.colpitts@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I get

make[1]: *** [libraries/integer-gmp2/gmp/gmp.h] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking assembler .cfi pseudo-op support... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... yes checking whether .eh_frame section should be read-only... expr: syntax error no checking for __attribute__((visibility("hidden")))... no checking that generated files are newer than configure... done configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating include/Makefile config.status: creating include/ffi.h config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating testsuite/Makefile config.status: creating man/Makefile config.status: creating libffi.pc config.status: creating fficonfig.h config.status: linking ../src/x86/ffitarget.h to include/ffitarget.h config.status: executing buildir commands config.status: create top_srcdir/Makefile guessed from local Makefile config.status: build in x86_64-apple-darwin (HOST=) config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing libtool commands config.status: executing include commands config.status: executing src commands # wc on OS X has spaces in its output, which libffi's Makefile # doesn't expect, so we tweak it to sed them out mv libffi/build/Makefile libffi/build/Makefile.orig sed "s#wc -w#wc -w | sed 's/ //g'#" < libffi/build/Makefile.orig > libffi/build/Makefile "touch" libffi/stamp.ffi.static-shared.configure make: *** [all] Error 2

Is that the same error you are getting?

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Carter Schonwald < carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'm having trouble setting the make file flags to make the Mac build use the intree gmp. I'm going to dig into this a bit more this evening.

On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Ben Gamari wrote:

...

Ben Gamari writes:

> Ben Gamari writes: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> We are pleased to announce the second release candidate for GHC 7.10.3: >> >> https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3-rc2/ >> > It has been brought to my attention that the configure script in this > source tarballs is out of date. Because of this `configure` will > still fail on OS X. Reports suggest that there may be other issues > unrelated to the configure issue on OS X as well. > Further testing suggests that perhaps the only issue is the out-of-date `configure` script. Mac OS X users with `autotools` installed should be able to run `./boot` in the source tree to bring `configure` up-to-date, at which point this release candidate should be buildable.

I'll cut an -rc3 with a fixed `configure` script today.

Cheers,

- Ben

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Ben Gamari :

Lastly, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge Futureice [2], who have donated a brand new Mac Mini for use by GHC developers to help support this platform. Their generosity is the reason we are able to offer OS X builds to you today.

Many thanks to Futureice for this donation!

[2] http://futurice.com/

Wow — that is generous! Many thanks to them! Manuel

Jens Petersen writes:

On 18 November 2015 at 23:48, Ben Gamari wrote:

...

We are pleased to announce the third release candidate of GHC 7.10.3:

Thanks, I built it for Fedora and RHEL/CentOS 7 in my copr repo:

Thanks Jens! On that note, 7.10.3 is coming. At the moment I am blocked on getting a Cabal release tagged but hopefully this will happen Real Soon Now(TM). Cheers, - Ben

On 29 November 2015 at 23:54, Ben Gamari wrote:

On that note, 7.10.3 is coming. At the moment I am blocked on getting a Cabal release tagged but hopefully this will happen Real Soon Now(TM).

Cool - Cabal-1.22.5.0 went into Stackage Nightly yesterday. :-)

Andrés Sicard-Ramírez writes:

On 2 December 2015 at 01:54, Jens Petersen wrote:

...

On 29 November 2015 at 23:54, Ben Gamari wrote:

...

On that note, 7.10.3 is coming. At the moment I am blocked on getting a Cabal release tagged but hopefully this will happen Real Soon Now(TM).

Cool - Cabal-1.22.5.0 went into Stackage Nightly yesterday. :-)

I saw that GHC 7.10.3 is available at

http://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.10.3/

Does anyone have an ETA for GHC 7.10.3?

Indeed; hopefully it will be out within the day. Currently the Haskell Platform packagers are working their magic with it. Cheers, - Ben