
Always cc ghc-devs! Bottle-necking on me may well yield a slow response! Or even Haskell-café.
What is the type of (\x -> [x,y])? Where y is in scope with type y::a. Presumably something like a -> [a]? Or is it forall a. a -> [a]? And would your answer change if you had just (\x -> [x,x])?
Generalisation is tricky, and for terms with non-closed types it is hard to know what you need in your use-case. A type like ‘a’ might be a very fine answer!
A lot depends on precisely what you are trying to do.
Simon
From: Peter Podlovics [mailto:peter.d.podlovics@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 March 2018 14:54
To: Simon Peyton Jones
f xs = length xs
The reason was that xs was not in the local environment. My question is: how could I provide the necessary local environment for these type checking functions? Also in the general case, is it possible to somehow annotate each expression with its type during the type checking? The motivation for this is that I want to implement a tool that automatically corrects ill-typed programs based heuristics. For that I need to know the types of certain AST nodes. Peter Podlovics

I wondered if https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.8.1/docs/html/users_guide/defer-type-er... could help. I tried to click around in the GHC 8.2 tree of http://stuff.codereview.me/ghc/#ghc/compiler/typecheck/TcErrors.hs?corpus=ghc-8.2.1-rc2&signature&line=120, but it seems deferring type errors just reports via a different means, and doesn't change the type-checking behavior. But correct me if I'm wrong. 2018-03-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 Simon Peyton Jones via ghc-devs < ghc-devs@haskell.org>:
Always cc ghc-devs! Bottle-necking on me may well yield a slow response! Or even Haskell-café.
What is the type of (\x -> [x,y])? Where y is in scope with type y::a. Presumably something like a -> [a]? Or is it forall a. a -> [a]? And would your answer change if you had just (\x -> [x,x])?
Generalisation is tricky, and for terms with non-closed types it is hard to know what you need in your use-case. A type like ‘a’ might be a very fine answer!
A lot depends on precisely what you are trying to do.
Simon
*From:* Peter Podlovics [mailto:peter.d.podlovics@gmail.com] *Sent:* 05 March 2018 14:54 *To:* Simon Peyton Jones
*Subject:* Re: Type checking expressions My main concern with that approach is that it might not give the correct type. For example the hsPatType function only gives unconstrained types, so it is incorrect for any numeric literal, since it gives "a" instead of "Num a => a".
So the question is whether it is possible to retrieve the context of the type variables as well. Also this problem may arise in the case of expressions as well, that is why I scrapped that approach and tried to type check the AST with the TcM monad directly, but without any success.
Could you give me any leads on how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Simon Peyton Jones
wrote: Peter
My goal is to determine the type of every expression, pattern etc. in the syntax tree
After type checking is complete, the syntax tree is liberally annotated with types.
We do not yet have a function
hsExprType :: HsExpr Id -> Type
but we do have
TcHsTyn.hsPatType :: Pat GhcTc -> Type
and you or someone could readily make an equivalent for HsExpr.
Most type errors are reported by adding an error constraint, but still returning an annotated tree.
Some, I’m afraid, are still done in the old way, by throwing an exception – so you don’t get back an annotated tree in that case. But they are relatively rare.
Others must have wanted something like this…
Simon
*From:* ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces@haskell.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Podlovics *Sent:* 02 March 2018 12:05 *To:* ghc-devs@haskell.org *Subject:* Fwd: Type checking expressions
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask for some advice regarding the type checker part of GHC. My goal is to determine the type of every expression, pattern etc. in the syntax tree. Currently the compiler doesn't store this information, so I have to type check manually. One important aspect is that the program may be ill-typed, but I still want to extract as much information as possible.
I tried using local type checking functions (eg.: tcInferSigma), but whenever I used it on an expression that had some "out-of-scope" names in it, it failed.
f xs = length xs
The reason was that xs was not in the local environment.
My question is: how could I provide the necessary local environment for these type checking functions? Also in the general case, is it possible to somehow annotate each expression with its type during the type checking?
The motivation for this is that I want to implement a tool that automatically corrects ill-typed programs based heuristics. For that I need to know the types of certain AST nodes.
Peter Podlovics
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Simon:
I would like to keep the constraints as much as possible. So if x :: C a =>
a then [x] :: C a => [a]. Also in the case of patterns if I have f 5 = 5,
then the pattern 5 should have type Num a => a, but currently the type is
stored without the Num context (using hsPatType). I don't to imitate the
complete type checking process, but is there a way to retrieve these
context information as well?
Robin:
The current solution uses the feature you mentioned. This is needed in
order to extract the incompletely typed AST from the compiler. The tool
then would perform some transformations on the syntax tree to correct the
type errors, but for that it must be able to type subexpressions as well.
The -fdefer-type-errors flag doesn't help to solve this problem, it only
enables us to extract the AST.
Any advice on typing expressions using API functions and retrieving context
information would help a great deal.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Robin Palotai
I wondered if https://downloads.haskell.org/~ghc/7.8.1/docs/html/users_ guide/defer-type-errors.html could help.
I tried to click around in the GHC 8.2 tree of http://stuff.codereview.me/ ghc/#ghc/compiler/typecheck/TcErrors.hs?corpus=ghc-8.2.1- rc2&signature&line=120, but it seems deferring type errors just reports via a different means, and doesn't change the type-checking behavior. But correct me if I'm wrong.
2018-03-05 17:11 GMT+01:00 Simon Peyton Jones via ghc-devs < ghc-devs@haskell.org>:
Always cc ghc-devs! Bottle-necking on me may well yield a slow response! Or even Haskell-café.
What is the type of (\x -> [x,y])? Where y is in scope with type y::a. Presumably something like a -> [a]? Or is it forall a. a -> [a]? And would your answer change if you had just (\x -> [x,x])?
Generalisation is tricky, and for terms with non-closed types it is hard to know what you need in your use-case. A type like ‘a’ might be a very fine answer!
A lot depends on precisely what you are trying to do.
Simon
*From:* Peter Podlovics [mailto:peter.d.podlovics@gmail.com] *Sent:* 05 March 2018 14:54 *To:* Simon Peyton Jones
*Subject:* Re: Type checking expressions My main concern with that approach is that it might not give the correct type. For example the hsPatType function only gives unconstrained types, so it is incorrect for any numeric literal, since it gives "a" instead of "Num a => a".
So the question is whether it is possible to retrieve the context of the type variables as well. Also this problem may arise in the case of expressions as well, that is why I scrapped that approach and tried to type check the AST with the TcM monad directly, but without any success.
Could you give me any leads on how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Simon Peyton Jones
wrote: Peter
My goal is to determine the type of every expression, pattern etc. in the syntax tree
After type checking is complete, the syntax tree is liberally annotated with types.
We do not yet have a function
hsExprType :: HsExpr Id -> Type
but we do have
TcHsTyn.hsPatType :: Pat GhcTc -> Type
and you or someone could readily make an equivalent for HsExpr.
Most type errors are reported by adding an error constraint, but still returning an annotated tree.
Some, I’m afraid, are still done in the old way, by throwing an exception – so you don’t get back an annotated tree in that case. But they are relatively rare.
Others must have wanted something like this…
Simon
*From:* ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces@haskell.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Podlovics *Sent:* 02 March 2018 12:05 *To:* ghc-devs@haskell.org *Subject:* Fwd: Type checking expressions
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask for some advice regarding the type checker part of GHC. My goal is to determine the type of every expression, pattern etc. in the syntax tree. Currently the compiler doesn't store this information, so I have to type check manually. One important aspect is that the program may be ill-typed, but I still want to extract as much information as possible.
I tried using local type checking functions (eg.: tcInferSigma), but whenever I used it on an expression that had some "out-of-scope" names in it, it failed.
f xs = length xs
The reason was that xs was not in the local environment.
My question is: how could I provide the necessary local environment for these type checking functions? Also in the general case, is it possible to somehow annotate each expression with its type during the type checking?
The motivation for this is that I want to implement a tool that automatically corrects ill-typed programs based heuristics. For that I need to know the types of certain AST nodes.
Peter Podlovics
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