Thanks for the clarification! Ryan On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Ryan Scott wrote:

I believe what Sven was saying is not that the Foldable instance for tuples are given "special treatment" (which is arguably an orthogonal discussion), but rather that -XDeriveFoldable special-cases tuples, which is certainly true.

As Edward noted, there is one possible justification for this behavior w.r.t. things like newtype V3 a = V3 (a, a, a) deriving Foldable. But to be honest, I find this justification tenuous at best, given the confusion it causes when explaining how DeriveFunctor/DeriveFoldable/DeriveTraversable work to newcomers. Removing this special case would not only be simple, but it would also lead to a more consistent story overall.

I would be curious to know how much code in the wild is actually taking advantage of a trick like newtype V3 a = V3 (a, a, a) deriving Foldable. If the breakage isn't terrible, then I propose we just rip off this wart.

(This is basically a rehash of the thoughts I left at https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/13465#comment:3)

Ryan S.

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