Dear Steering Committee You may remember that we approved the Type Applications in Patternshttps://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/proposals/0126-ty... proposal, some time ago. Cale has been implementing it (see ticket 11350https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/11350 and MR 2464https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/merge_requests/2464). It's nearly done. But in doing so, one design choice came up that we did not discuss much, and I'd like to consult you. Consider first the existing pattern-signature mechanism (not the new feature): data T a where MkT :: forall a b. a -> b -> T a f1 :: forall p. T [p] -> blah f1 (MkT (x :: a) pi) = blah f2 :: forall p. T [p] -> blah f2 (MkT (x :: p) pi) = blah In f1, the pattern (x :: a) brings 'a' into scope, binding it to the type [p]. But in f2, since p is already in scope, the pattern (x :: p) does not bring anything new into scope. Instead it requires that x have type p, but actually it has type [p], so f2 is rejected. Notice that a pattern signature brings a new variable into scope only if it isn't already in scope. Notice how this differs from the treatment of term variables; the 'pi' in the pattern brings 'pi' into scope unconditionally, shadowing the existing 'pi' (from the Prelude). OK, now let's look at the new feature. Consider g1 :: forall p. T [p] -> blah g1 (MkT @a x y) = blah g2 :: forall p. T [p] -> blah g2 (MkT @p x pi) = blah Question: should the variables free in these type arguments be treated like pattern signatures, or like term variables? 1. Like pattern signatures. In this design, in g1, 'a' is not in scope, so this brings it into scope, bound to [p]. But in g2, 'p' is in scope, so this is rejected (because MkT is instantiated at [p] not p. 2. Like term variables. In this design, all the variables free in type patterns are fresh, and brought into scope. In g2, a new 'p' is brought into scope, shadowing the existing 'p'; indeed the new 'p' is bound to [old_p]. The original paper, and hence the accepted proposal, adopts (A). But Cale likes (B). Indeed John Ericson wrote a Proposal 291: simplify scoping for type applications in pattenshttps://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/291 to advocate this change. (The proposal is not easy to understand, but advocating (B) is its payload. This is not a terribly big deal, but it would be good to settle it. The right place to have debate is on Proposal 291https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/291. This email is just to alert you to it, and ask for your opinions. Simon