Fw: Re: Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing
Hi all, I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email. Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here. Thanks, Erik Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing Hi Simon, I understand that you are currently secretary. Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link. Thanks, Erik Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf, Matthías Páll Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded. Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
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Hi Erik, The Google sheet we were using previously still exists (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e6GdwHmAjeDEUhTvP-b18MDkpTfH3SMHhFu5...) but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement (https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/756) but I don't think that is quite ready yet. It would be great to have, though. In the meantime, given that there is quite a lot of committee support for this proposal and no substantial objections, it seems fine to just declare it accepted? AFAICS the only thing needed is to adapt the RST formatting to please GitHub's renderer. Cheers, Adam On 27/08/2026 03:55, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email.
Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here.
Thanks, Erik
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing
Hi Simon,
I understand that you are currently secretary.
Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link.
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf, Matthías Páll Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded. Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
-- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, https://www.well-typed.com/ Registered in England & Wales, OC335890 27 Old Gloucester Street, London WC1N 3AX, England
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement
*Perhaps until we have a reliable, regularly-updated automated version, we might continue to use the spreadsheet? * Compared to the other work of the committee it costs practically nothing to maintain. The secretary (maybe Adam and Simon together) can be the primary keepers, but shepherds can use it too to update the status of their proposals. I find it incredibly useful myself. Simon On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 at 20:49, Adam Gundry <adam@well-typed.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
The Google sheet we were using previously still exists ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e6GdwHmAjeDEUhTvP-b18MDkpTfH3SMHhFu5...)
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement (https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/756) but I don't think that is quite ready yet. It would be great to have, though.
In the meantime, given that there is quite a lot of committee support for this proposal and no substantial objections, it seems fine to just declare it accepted? AFAICS the only thing needed is to adapt the RST formatting to please GitHub's renderer.
Cheers,
Adam
On 27/08/2026 03:55, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email.
Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here.
Thanks, Erik
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing
Hi Simon,
I understand that you are currently secretary.
Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link.
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf, Matthías Páll Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded. Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
-- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, https://www.well-typed.com/
Registered in England & Wales, OC335890 27 Old Gloucester Street, London WC1N 3AX, England
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Proposal accepted, spreadsheet updated, proposal PR merged and proposer notified (in the PR). Cheers, Erik Simon Peyton Jones wrote:
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement
*Perhaps until we have a reliable, regularly-updated automated version, we might continue to use the spreadsheet? * Compared to the other work of the committee it costs practically nothing to maintain. The secretary (maybe Adam and Simon together) can be the primary keepers, but shepherds can use it too to update the status of their proposals.
I find it incredibly useful myself.
Simon
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 at 20:49, Adam Gundry <adam@well-typed.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
The Google sheet we were using previously still exists ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e6GdwHmAjeDEUhTvP-b18MDkpTfH3SMHhFu5...)
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement (https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/756) but I don't think that is quite ready yet. It would be great to have, though.
In the meantime, given that there is quite a lot of committee support for this proposal and no substantial objections, it seems fine to just declare it accepted? AFAICS the only thing needed is to adapt the RST formatting to please GitHub's renderer.
Cheers,
Adam
On 27/08/2026 03:55, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email.
Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here.
Thanks, Erik
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing
Hi Simon,
I understand that you are currently secretary.
Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link.
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf, Matthías Páll Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded. Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
-- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, https://www.well-typed.com/
Registered in England & Wales, OC335890 27 Old Gloucester Street, London WC1N 3AX, England
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Thanks Erik -- a Good Shepherd! Simon On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 at 08:17, Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> wrote:
Proposal accepted, spreadsheet updated, proposal PR merged and proposer notified (in the PR).
Cheers, Erik
Simon Peyton Jones wrote:
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been
working on
an automated replacement
*Perhaps until we have a reliable, regularly-updated automated version, we might continue to use the spreadsheet? * Compared to the other work of the committee it costs practically nothing to maintain. The secretary (maybe Adam and Simon together) can be the primary keepers, but shepherds can use it too to update the status of their proposals.
I find it incredibly useful myself.
Simon
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 at 20:49, Adam Gundry <adam@well-typed.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
The Google sheet we were using previously still exists (
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e6GdwHmAjeDEUhTvP-b18MDkpTfH3SMHhFu5... )
but it is not necessarily regularly updated. Sebastian has been working on an automated replacement (https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/756) but I don't think that is quite ready yet. It would be great to have, though.
In the meantime, given that there is quite a lot of committee support for this proposal and no substantial objections, it seems fine to just declare it accepted? AFAICS the only thing needed is to adapt the RST formatting to please GitHub's renderer.
Cheers,
Adam
On 27/08/2026 03:55, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email.
Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here.
Thanks, Erik
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment
to
ImportShadowing
Hi Simon,
I understand that you are currently secretary.
Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link.
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf,
Matthías Páll
Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were
recorded.
Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik --
Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
--
Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
-- Adam Gundry, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, https://www.well-typed.com/
Registered in England & Wales, OC335890 27 Old Gloucester Street, London WC1N 3AX, England
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Apologies, I was away travelling for a few days. Adam's response is definitive - the spreadsheet can be used to track votes although we're not actively using it to track proposals. On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 at 03:55, Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I realize that this is the time of year when the northern hemisphere takes holidays, but this email may also just have been flagged as spam in Simon's email.
Would appreciate it if anyone might be able to provied a clue here.
Thanks, Erik
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 19:22:47 +1000 From: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@mega-nerd.com> To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #678: Amendment to ImportShadowing
Hi Simon,
I understand that you are currently secretary.
Does the Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded still exist? If so please provide me with a link.
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to this I have seen acceptance recommendations from
Malte Ott, Jaro Reinders, Adam Gundry, Sebastian Graf, Matthías Páll Gissurarson and myself.
Hope I have not missed anyone. Anybody else like to accept?
There used to be a Google spreadsheet where the acceptances were recorded. Does that still exist? Is there a new way acceptances are recorded?
Thanks, Erik
Erik de Castro Lopo via ghc-steering-committee wrote:
Hi all,
In regards to the "Amend Import Shadowing proposal to match Haskell 2010 section 5.2.5" proposal:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/678
This went back into review because there was still a lot of chatter on it. This chatter has completely died out after Simon PJ's input was incorporated.
I have recommended that we accept this minor modification of this proposal. I would appreciate it if everyone else on the committee would vote.
Thanks, Erik -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ _______________________________________________ ghc-steering-committee mailing list -- ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org To unsubscribe send an email to ghc-steering-committee-leave@haskell.org
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/
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