Re: Concrete syntax for open type kind?

16 Apr 2014

      Oops! I was reading ParserCore.y, instead of Parser.y.pp. Thanks.

Too bad it's not possible to replicate this type interpretation of `error`
and `undefined`. I'm doing some Core transformation, and I have a
polymorphic function (reify) that I want to apply to expressions of lifted
and unlifted types, as a way of structuring the transformation. When my
transformation gets to unlifted types, the application violates the
*-kindedness of my polymorphic function. I can probably find a way around.
Maybe I'll build the kind-incorrect applications and then make sure to
transform them away in the end. Currently, the implementation invokes
`error`.

Does anyone remember the justification of not having unlifted or open kinds
in the source language?

-- Conal

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Richard Eisenberg wrote:
...
What version of the GHC code are you looking at? The parser is currently
stored in compiler/parser/Parser.y.pp (note the pp) and doesn’t have these
lines. As far as I know, there is no way to refer to OpenKind from source.
You’re absolutely right about the type of `undefined`. `undefined` (and
`error`) have magical types. GHC knows that GHC.Err defines an `undefined`
symbol and gives it its type by fiat. There is no way (I believe) to
reproduce this behavior.
If you have -fprint-explicit-foralls and -fprint-explicit-kinds enabled,
quantified variables of kind * are not given kinds in the output. So, the
lack of a kind annotation tells you that `a`’s kind is *. Any other kind
(assuming these flags) would be printed.
I hope this helps!
Richard
On Apr 15, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Conal Elliott  wrote:
I see ‘#’ for unlifted and ‘?’ for open kinds in compiler/parser/Parser.y:
akind   :: { IfaceKind }
        : '*'              { ifaceLiftedTypeKind }
        | '#'              { ifaceUnliftedTypeKind }
        | '?'              { ifaceOpenTypeKind }
        | '(' kind ')'     { $2 }
kind    :: { IfaceKind }
        : akind            { $1 }
        | akind '->' kind  { ifaceArrow $1 $3 }
However, I don’t know how to get GHC to accept ‘#’ or ‘?’ in a kind
annotation. Are these kinds really available to source programs.
I see that undefined has an open-kinded type:
*Main> :i undefined
undefined :: forall (a :: OpenKind). a      -- Defined in ‘GHC.Err’
Looking in the GHC.Err source, I just see the following:
undefined :: a
undefined =  error "Prelude.undefined"
However, if I try similarly,
q :: a
q = error "q"
I don’t see a similar type:
*X> :i q
q :: forall a. a        -- Defined at ../test/X.hs:12:1
I don't know what kind 'a' has here, nor how to find out.
-- Conal
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