On May 9, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Bennett Todd wrote:
2005-05-09T16:09:16 Daniel Carrera:
I think it should be if you want Haskell to grow in acceptance. The first barrier that new potential users hit is the one that causes most people to give up and move on to a different project. That first barrier should be made as low as possible.
This is a first barrier only for users on platforms that don't currently have ghc maintainers.
Given how tricksy it is getting a working ghc build, even on a "supported" platform, doing so is relegated to the few and devoted; new users are only welcome on the platforms for which pre-built ghc binaries are available.
I'll echo this. The Darwinports GHC build is the first time I've ever gotten GHC to build out of the box. Previous attempts have required multiple hours of hacking, even with a same-version binary installed on the same platform. Part of that was being burdened with variously non-standard machine configurations. But mostly it's because the fptools build structure was historically pretty fragile, and stuff broke badly if it didn't get built in just the right order with just the right versions of things. On many occasions I just gave up and kept the sources around for reference only (eg to look things up in the library code when the docs were fuzzy...). My perception is that this is improving with time. But it's still a big time investment. Certainly I don't expect to ever have the time to coax GHC to build from source on Solaris nowadays. -Jan-Willem Maessen
I agree with you, Daniel, that this is a terribly unfortunate state of affairs, but as has already been said, the folks who are doing the actual work (I ain't one of 'em) have decided that making ghc easier to bootstrap onto a supported platform is not a priority for them, they're content that virtually all ghc users should have to download prebuilt binaries, or source packages on platforms where devoted souls have built working automated builds.
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