| The lack of response, I believe, is just a lack of anyone who | can cut through all the noise and come up with some | practical way to move forward in one of the many possible | directions. You're right. But it is very telling that the vast majority of responses on http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/nph9l/records_stalled_again_leaders... were not about the subject (leadership) but rather on suggesting yet more, incompletely-specified solutions to the original problem. My modest attempt to build a consensus by articulating the simplest solution I could think of, manifestly failed. The trouble is that I just don't have the bandwidth (or, if I'm honest, the motivation) to drive this through to a conclusion. And if no one else does either, perhaps it isn't *that* important to anyone. That said, it clearly is *somewhat* important to a lot of people, so doing nothing isn't very satisfactory either. Usually I feel I know how to move forward, but here I don't. Simon