Pattern synonym 'Required' constraints === Datatype Contexts(?)

I must be slow on the uptake. I've just grokked this equivalence -- or is it? Consider
data Eq a => Set a = NilSet | ConsSet a (Set a) -- from the Language report
-- ConsSet :: forall a. Eq a => a -> Set a => Set a -- inferred/per report
-- equiv with Pattern syn 'Required' constraint data Set' a = NilSet' | ConsSet' a (Set' a) -- no DT context
pattern ConsSetP :: (Eq a) => () => a -> (Set' a) -> (Set' a) pattern ConsSetP x xs = ConsSet' x xs
ffP ((ConsSet x xs), (ConsSetP y ys)) = (x, y)
-- ffP :: forall {a} {b}. (Eq a, Eq b) => (Set a, Set' b) -> (a, b) -- inferred
The signature decl for `ConsSetP` explicitly gives both the Required `(Eq a) =>` and Provided `() =>` constraints, but the Provided could be omitted, because it's empty. I get the same signature for both `ConsSetP` as `ConsSet` with the DT Context. Or is there some subtle difference? This typing effect is what got DT Contexts called 'stupid theta' and deprecated/removed from the language standard. ("widely considered a mis-feature", as GHC is keen to tell me.) If there's no difference, why re-introduce the feature for Patterns? That is, why go to the bother of the double-context business, which looks weird, and behaves counter to usual signatures:
foo :: (Eq a) => (Show a) => a -> a -- foo :: forall {a}. (Eq a, Show a) => a -> a -- inferred
There is a slight difference possible with Pattern synonyms, compare:
pattern NilSetP :: (Eq a) => () => (Set' a) pattern NilSetP = NilSet'
-- NilSetP :: forall {a}. Eq a => Set' a -- inferred -- NilSet :: forall {a}. => Set a -- inferred/per report
Using `NilSetP` somewhere needs giving an explicit signature/otherwise your types are ambiguous; but arguably that's a better discipline than using `NilSet` and allowing a Set with non-comparable element types. AntC

You're right that these features sit in a similar space. The difference is that, with a pattern synonym, the required context might be useful. This is because pattern synonyms can perform computation (via view patterns), and this computation might plausibly require some class constraint. An easy example:
pattern Positive :: (Ord a, Num a) => a pattern Positive <- ((>0) -> True)
Here, the required context is helpful. On the other hand, because matching against a data constructor never does computation, the constraints are never useful in this way. Richard
On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Anthony Clayden
wrote: I must be slow on the uptake. I've just grokked this equivalence -- or is it? Consider
data Eq a => Set a = NilSet | ConsSet a (Set a) -- from the Language report
-- ConsSet :: forall a. Eq a => a -> Set a => Set a -- inferred/per report
-- equiv with Pattern syn 'Required' constraint data Set' a = NilSet' | ConsSet' a (Set' a) -- no DT context
pattern ConsSetP :: (Eq a) => () => a -> (Set' a) -> (Set' a) pattern ConsSetP x xs = ConsSet' x xs
ffP ((ConsSet x xs), (ConsSetP y ys)) = (x, y)
-- ffP :: forall {a} {b}. (Eq a, Eq b) => (Set a, Set' b) -> (a, b) -- inferred
The signature decl for `ConsSetP` explicitly gives both the Required `(Eq a) =>` and Provided `() =>` constraints, but the Provided could be omitted, because it's empty. I get the same signature for both `ConsSetP` as `ConsSet` with the DT Context. Or is there some subtle difference?
This typing effect is what got DT Contexts called 'stupid theta' and deprecated/removed from the language standard. ("widely considered a mis-feature", as GHC is keen to tell me.) If there's no difference, why re-introduce the feature for Patterns? That is, why go to the bother of the double-context business, which looks weird, and behaves counter to usual signatures:
foo :: (Eq a) => (Show a) => a -> a -- foo :: forall {a}. (Eq a, Show a) => a -> a -- inferred
There is a slight difference possible with Pattern synonyms, compare:
pattern NilSetP :: (Eq a) => () => (Set' a) pattern NilSetP = NilSet'
-- NilSetP :: forall {a}. Eq a => Set' a -- inferred -- NilSet :: forall {a}. => Set a -- inferred/per report
Using `NilSetP` somewhere needs giving an explicit signature/otherwise your types are ambiguous; but arguably that's a better discipline than using `NilSet` and allowing a Set with non-comparable element types.
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The required context on pattern synonyms isn't just useful, it's
necessary. Since arbitrary computation can happen in both the pattern
matching and construction we need the context.
Take Richard's example, without the context on Positive we would infer the
wrong type for any use of the Positive synonym.
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 7:09 AM Richard Eisenberg
You're right that these features sit in a similar space. The difference is that, with a pattern synonym, the required context might be useful. This is because pattern synonyms can perform computation (via view patterns), and this computation might plausibly require some class constraint. An easy example:
pattern Positive :: (Ord a, Num a) => a pattern Positive <- ((>0) -> True)
Here, the required context is helpful. On the other hand, because matching against a data constructor never does computation, the constraints are never useful in this way.
Richard
On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Anthony Clayden
wrote: I must be slow on the uptake. I've just grokked this equivalence -- or is it? Consider
data Eq a => Set a = NilSet | ConsSet a (Set a) -- from the Language report
-- ConsSet :: forall a. Eq a => a -> Set a => Set a -- inferred/per report
-- equiv with Pattern syn 'Required' constraint data Set' a = NilSet' | ConsSet' a (Set' a) -- no DT context
pattern ConsSetP :: (Eq a) => () => a -> (Set' a) -> (Set' a) pattern ConsSetP x xs = ConsSet' x xs
ffP ((ConsSet x xs), (ConsSetP y ys)) = (x, y)
-- ffP :: forall {a} {b}. (Eq a, Eq b) => (Set a, Set' b) -> (a, b) -- inferred
The signature decl for `ConsSetP` explicitly gives both the Required `(Eq a) =>` and Provided `() =>` constraints, but the Provided could be omitted, because it's empty. I get the same signature for both `ConsSetP` as `ConsSet` with the DT Context. Or is there some subtle difference?
This typing effect is what got DT Contexts called 'stupid theta' and deprecated/removed from the language standard. ("widely considered a mis-feature", as GHC is keen to tell me.) If there's no difference, why re-introduce the feature for Patterns? That is, why go to the bother of the double-context business, which looks weird, and behaves counter to usual signatures:
foo :: (Eq a) => (Show a) => a -> a -- foo :: forall {a}. (Eq a, Show a) => a -> a -- inferred
There is a slight difference possible with Pattern synonyms, compare:
pattern NilSetP :: (Eq a) => () => (Set' a) pattern NilSetP = NilSet'
-- NilSetP :: forall {a}. Eq a => Set' a -- inferred -- NilSet :: forall {a}. => Set a -- inferred/per report
Using `NilSetP` somewhere needs giving an explicit signature/otherwise your types are ambiguous; but arguably that's a better discipline than using `NilSet` and allowing a Set with non-comparable element types.
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021, Richard Eisenberg wrote:
You're right that these features sit in a similar space. The difference is that, with a pattern synonym, the required context might be useful. This is because pattern synonyms can perform computation (via view patterns), and this computation might plausibly require some class constraint. An easy example: pattern Positive :: (Ord a, Num a) => a pattern Positive <- ((>0) -> True)
Heck, even just pattern matching on `0` (no view patterns) Requires the scrutinee to be both `Num` and `Eq`. To see why, ponder the inferred type of the following function: ``` foo 0 = True foo _ = False ```
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