
Hi folks, I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting to discuss GHC. The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) and so on. I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary. Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though. Thoughts? I'm thinking a time around 1600 UK time (currently UTC+1) would probably work best, does anyone have preferences for days? Cheers, Simon

Hello Simon, Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:08:52 PM, you wrote:
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com

Hi
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc
I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a log :-) Thanks Neil

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:08 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
Hi
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc
I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a log :-)
Log here: http://haskell.org/~duncan/ghc/%23ghc-2008-07-16.log Hopefully we can put them in some standard place as we go on. Duncan

Duncan Coutts wrote:
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:08 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
Hi
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a log :-)
Log here: http://haskell.org/~duncan/ghc/%23ghc-2008-07-16.log
Hopefully we can put them in some standard place as we go on.
Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting discussion about the HLP. On this basis I think we should try making it a weekly event. Cheers, Simon

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Simon Marlow
Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting discussion about the HLP. On this basis I think we should try making it a weekly event.
Thanks for arranging the meeting. I couldn't attend this time but I've read the logs and given the constructive discussion I definitely think it's worth making into a weekly event. Cheers, Johan

Johan Tibell wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Simon Marlow
wrote: Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting discussion about the HLP. On this basis I think we should try making it a weekly event.
Thanks for arranging the meeting. I couldn't attend this time but I've read the logs and given the constructive discussion I definitely think it's worth making into a weekly event.
Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US. For this week let's stick to the same time as last week (4pm UK), but let me know if 9pm UK would be better/worse for you (that's 1300 PDT, 1600 EDT). For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :) Cheers, Simon

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Simon Marlow
Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US.
I would have a hard time attending at this time since it's after work hours in Europe. One nice thing with having it during work hours is that I can have my IRC open in one window while I work.
For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :)
Yes! Git please. Cheers, Johan darcs-ate-our-ICFP-submission Tibell

Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US. I, for one, am happy with the current time; changing it should always be an option though.
For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :) Perhaps we could have an ever evolving wiki page with the when/where/agenda/logs. I've started a rough one [1]; I put it in the general Haskell wiki because these topics certainly aren't confined to GHC.

Thomas M. DuBuisson wrote:
Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US. I, for one, am happy with the current time; changing it should always be an option though.
For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :) Perhaps we could have an ever evolving wiki page with the when/where/agenda/logs. I've started a rough one [1]; I put it in the general Haskell wiki because these topics certainly aren't confined to GHC.
Thomas
Hmm, well I did intend these meetings to be focussed mainly on issues relating to GHC, rather than a general Haskell discussion which could be held on #haskell separately. By all means start a more general Haskell meeting too, but I want to keep this one for GHC. The VCS debate is about what system GHC should use, not the community as a whole. The HLP discussion is on topic because it is so closely related to how we release/package/ship GHC. Cheers, Simon

By all means start a more general Haskell meeting too, but I want to keep this one for GHC. The VCS debate is about what system GHC should use, not the community as a whole. The HLP discussion is on topic because it is so closely related to how we release/package/ship GHC.
Ah, I assumed this included Hackage. How presumptuous of me. Thomas

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Simon Marlow
Hi folks,
I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting to discuss GHC. The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) and so on. I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.
I would definitely be interested. 16:00 UK time would work for me. Personally I'd have an easier time attending during work hours.

marlowsd:
Hi folks,
I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting to discuss GHC. The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) and so on. I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
Thoughts? I'm thinking a time around 1600 UK time (currently UTC+1) would probably work best, does anyone have preferences for days?
I think this is a good plan. 1600 UTC+1 is currently 8am Friday on the USA west coast fwiw. -- Don

Don Stewart wrote:
marlowsd:
Hi folks,
I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting to discuss GHC. The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) and so on. I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium for this kind of meeting. A conference call could work too, though.
Thoughts? I'm thinking a time around 1600 UK time (currently UTC+1) would probably work best, does anyone have preferences for days?
I think this is a good plan. 1600 UTC+1 is currently 8am Friday on the USA west coast fwiw. I'd listen in if this plan comes to fruition. The 1600 UTC+1 time would work fine.
Tom

Thomas M. DuBuisson
Don Stewart wrote:
I think this is a good plan. 1600 UTC+1 is currently 8am Friday on the USA west coast fwiw.
I'd listen in if this plan comes to fruition. The 1600 UTC+1 time would work fine.
I would listen in, as well. 1500 UTC is a little early in SF, but it's before work and that's just as well. -- _jsn

Ok, the first weekly IRC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 16 July (tomorrow) at 1600 BST (UTC+1) 0800 PDT (UTC-7) 1100 EDT (UTC-4) 0100 Thursday in Sydney (sorry guys :-) If it turns out to be useful, we'll make it a regular thing. See you in #ghc on chat.freenode.net. More instructions for getting on IRC are here: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel. Cheers, Simon

Simon Marlow
#ghc on chat.freenode.net. More instructions for getting on IRC are here: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel.
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:25:41AM +0000, david48 wrote:
Simon Marlow
writes: #ghc on chat.freenode.net. More instructions for getting on IRC are here: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel.
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The "." is not part of the URL: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel Thanks Ian

Ian Lynagh
The "." is not part of the URL: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel
I do feel dumb right now :)

The IRC meeting will be held today at 16:00 UK time as usual (there wasn't any support for moving it to 21:00). Simon PJ is back from holiday and should make it this time. Any suggestions for discussion topics? One idea we have is to talk about the GHC API. Cheers, Simon

It would be nice if we could make some more progress on the revision
control issue from last week. I don't know if people are ready to
actually make a choice of RCS at this stage, but I've tried to make
all the information necessary to make a choice available at
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DarcsEvaluation, along with
the URLs of the conversions of the GHC repo to all those formats.
Concretely, a decision needs to be made on:
1) Choice of RCS, so we can start researching how to do the Trac
integration / replace darcsweb, and start converting infrastructure
ready for the changeover
2) A timetable for conversion to the new RCS
All the best,
Max
2008/7/30 Simon Marlow
The IRC meeting will be held today at 16:00 UK time as usual (there wasn't any support for moving it to 21:00). Simon PJ is back from holiday and should make it this time.
Any suggestions for discussion topics? One idea we have is to talk about the GHC API.
Cheers, Simon
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participants (12)
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Bulat Ziganshin
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david48
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Don Stewart
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Duncan Coutts
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Ian Lynagh
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Jason Dusek
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Johan Tibell
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Johannes Waldmann
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Max Bolingbroke
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Neil Mitchell
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Simon Marlow
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Thomas M. DuBuisson