February 2008 - Haskell-Cafe

Binary IEEE floating point format for AMQP
by Paul Johnson 24 Feb '08

24 Feb '08

I'm working on an implementation of the framing layer for AMQP (www.amqp.org) I almost had 0.9 finished when I found they had released the spec for 0.10, so I have to redo quite a lot of work. Amongst the new features of 0.10 are wire formats for floating point. These are the 4 and 8 byte IEEE formats. * Is there a principled way of converting a Haskell Float or Double (or Rational, for that matter) to and from IEEE format? * Since many computers use IEEE format natively, is there a quicker way of doing this on those architectures? Paul.

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Haskell + Windows Mobile?
by Bulat Ziganshin 24 Feb '08

24 Feb '08

Hello haskell-cafe, is there any haskell implementation for Windows Mobile? does they are support creation of GUI apps and internet networking features? -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com

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Haskell w/ delimited continuations
by oleg＠okmij.org 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Call-by-name lambda-calculus is strictly more expressive (in Felleisen sense) than call-by-value lambda-calculus, and the call-by-need (aka, lazy) lambda-calculus is observationally equivalent to the call-by-name. One can add shift/reset to any of these calculi (CBV shift/reset is most known; there are several CBN shift/reset, including the one I'm particularly attached to; in principle one can add shift/reset to call-by-need). Adding control effects (shift/reset) changes the expressivity results. Now all three calculi are distinct and none subsumes the other. For example, the expression reset( (\x -> 1) (abort 2)) evaluates to 1 in call-by-name and evaluate to 2 in call-by-value. The expression reset ((\x -> x + x) (shift f f)) has the type int->int in call-by-need (it is a function \x -> x + x) and it has the type int->int->int in call-by-name (and it is the curried addition function). The fact that call-by-need is no longer observationally equivalent to call-by-name and sharing becomes observable is the most distressing. It disables many optimizations GHC is allowed to do. Types help: there are call-by-name calculi with shift/reset with effect typing; one can look at the type and see what control effect an expression may make. That will still permit GHC optimize pure expressions and leave effectful expressions as they are. Alas, that type system is complex and I don't think inference is decidable there due to the presence of subtyping (one must annotate at least some of the binders with types, in particular, the binders of shift). It seems the simplest solution is to confine shift/reset to a monad. Regarding purity: the obligatory reference is Amr Sabry. What is a Purely Functional Language? In J. Functional Programming, 8(1), 1-22, Jan. 1998. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~sabry/papers/purelyFunctional.ps Please see the definition 4.7. As Matthias Blume said, a bit informally, evaluation of a pure expression should not depend on CBN or CBV or some other such strategy. By this definition, an expression that involves shift/reset is not pure, as the above examples demonstrate.

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Haskell Weekly News: February 23, 2008
by Don Stewart 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haskell Weekly News http://sequence.complete.org/hwn/20080223 Issue 70 - February 23, 2008 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to issue 70 of HWN, a newsletter covering developments in the [1]Haskell community. One hundred unique new and updated libraries and applications in the past two weeks, including mutable arrays, compression, games, web frameworks, data structures, a file system, Haskell tools, concurrency, graphics, cryptography, systems administration, signal processing, new guis and several audio libraries 1. http://haskell.org/ Hackage New and updated libraries in [2]the Hackage library database. 2. http://hackage.haskell.org/ * ArrayRef 0.1.2. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [3]ArrayRef: Unboxed references, dynamic arrays and more. * zlib 0.4.0.4. Uploaded by Duncan Coutts. [4]zlib: Compression and decompression in the gzip and zlib formats. * hetris 0.1. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [5]hetris: Text Tetris. * bzlib 0.4.0.3. Uploaded by Duncan Coutts. [6]bzlib: Compression and decompression in the bzip2 format. * HAppS-Server 0.9.2. Uploaded by David Himmelstrup. [7]HAppS-Server: Web related tools and services.. * HAppS-State 0.9.2. Uploaded by David Himmelstrup. [8]HAppS-State: Event-based distributed state.. * HAppS-Data 0.9.2. Uploaded by David Himmelstrup. [9]HAppS-Data: HAppS data manipulation libraries. * HAppS-IxSet 0.9.2. Uploaded by David Himmelstrup. [10]HAppS-IxSet: Added by DavidHimmelstrup, Fri Feb 22 15:18:20 PST 2008.. * HAppS-Util 0.9.2. Uploaded by David Himmelstrup. [11]HAppS-Util: Web framework. * Ranged-sets 0.2.0. Uploaded by Paul Johnson. [12]Ranged-sets: Ranged sets for Haskell. 3. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/ArrayRef-0.1.2 4. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/zlib-0.4.0.4 5. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/hetris-0.1 6. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/bzlib-0.4.0.3 7. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HAppS-Server-0.9… 8. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HAppS-State-0.9.2 9. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HAppS-Data-0.9.2 10. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HAppS-IxSet-0.9.2 11. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HAppS-Util-0.9.2 12. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/Ranged-sets-0.2.0 * halfs 0.2. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [13]halfs: Haskell File System. * sessions 2008.2.22. Uploaded by Matthew Sackman. 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[84]lambdabot: A multi-talented IRC bot. * HsOpenSSL 0.4. Uploaded by Masatake Daimon. [85]HsOpenSSL: (Part of) OpenSSL binding for Haskell. * network-minihttp 0.1. Uploaded by Adam Langley. [86]network-minihttp: A very minimal webserver. * ZFS 0.0. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [87]ZFS: Oleg's Zipper FS. * fst 0.9. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [88]fst: Finite state transducers. * haskell-in-space 0.1. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [89]haskell-in-space: 'Asteroids' arcade games.. * unix-pty-light 0.1. Uploaded by Stuart Cook. [90]unix-pty-light: POSIX pseudo-terminal support. * bot 0.1. Uploaded by Conal Elliott. [91]bot: bots for functional reactive programming. * Hedi 0.1. Uploaded by Paolo Veronelli. [92]Hedi: Line oriented editor. 83. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/NGrams-1.1 84. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/lambdabot-4.1 85. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/HsOpenSSL-0.4 86. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/network-minihttp… 87. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/ZFS-0.0 88. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/fst-0.9 89. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/haskell-in-space… 90. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/unix-pty-light-0… 91. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/bot-0.1 92. http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/Hedi-0.1 * network-bytestring 0.1.1.2. Uploaded by Johan Tibell. [93]network-bytestring: Fast and memory efficient low-level networking. * leksah 0.1.1. Uploaded by Juergen NicklischFranken. [94]leksah: Haskell IDE written in Haskell. * nano-hmac 0.2.0. Uploaded by Hitesh Jasani. [95]nano-hmac: Bindings to OpenSSL HMAC.. * monadenv 0.0-2005-02-14. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [96]monadenv: Added by GwernBranwen, Sun Feb 10 20:15:11 PST 2008.. * blockio 0.0-2006-02-03. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [97]blockio: Block-oriented I/O Driver. * child 0.0-2005-02-14. Uploaded by Gwern Branwen. [98]child: Added by GwernBranwen, Sun Feb 10 19:35:20 PST 2008.. * highlighting-kate 0.2.1. Uploaded by John MacFarlane. 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A beginners question
by Harri Kiiskinen 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Dear All, banging my head against Haskell, but liking the feeling of hurting brains. Just a simple question: If fmap (^4) [1,2,3] >>= \i -> shows i " " gives "1 16 81 " then why does let i = fmap (^4) [1,2,3] in shows i " " give "[1,16,81] " Probably very simple, but there must be a delicate difference between these two expressions. I just don't get it. -- Harri Kiiskinen <harri.kiiskinen(a)utu.fi>

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Re: [Haskell] *** JOB OFFER *** [...]
by Paul Johnson 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Peter Verswyvelen wrote: > > PS: This job offer was already placed in the Haskell Café a while ago, > but I was advised there to place it in the main Haskell list. I hope > this is not considered as spam. > I certainly don't see it as spam. One day there will be a dozen jobs for Haskell programmers on Monster or Jobserve, and at that point another such announcement *would* be spam. But at the moment it has rarity value. Paul.

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Database relations mapping
by Radosław Grzanka 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

Hi, I'm developing toy application to learn HDBC. I have "problem" with doing relations mapping. Actually I don't know is it a problem or "feature". ;) Anyway, I have two tables with relation between them: (this example is simplified to the whole structure of database, you can imagine) CREATE TABLE TD_set ( setId INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, setName TEXT NOT NULL ) CREATE TABLE TO_card ( cardId INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT, setId INTEGER NOT NULL," -- Relation to TD_set setSeq INTEGER NOT NULL ) (no foreign key as sqlite3 does not care anyway - at least AFAIK) And in Haskell: > type CardSet = String > > data Card = Card { > set :: CardSet, > seqNo :: Integer, > } There is no problem with filling the structure Card with "seqNo" but I can't fill "set". I would have to put there IO (CardSet) but I don't want to do that as whole structure returned from my mapping function is already inside IO monad. Can I do it? Here is my (perfect) function - http://hpaste.org/5839 . See "getCards" and some helper functions. This does not compile as (I believe) getElement wants to return IO (CardSet) Thank you in advance for all your input. Radek.

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Haskell w/ delimited continuations
by Taral 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

My understanding of these things is limited, but what would stop me, theoretically speaking, of making a version of ghc with these primitives added: type Prompt r reset :: (Prompt r -> r) -> r shift :: Prompt r -> ((a -> _) -> r) -> a (Where _ is either r or forall b. b) -- Taral <taralx(a)gmail.com> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

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haddock as a markdown preprocessor
by Conal Elliott 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

There was a chat today on #haskell<http://tunes.org/%7Enef/logs/haskell/08.02.20> (15:08 to 16:10) about evolving haddock. I'd like to get comments. The goal is to get the full functionality of a general purpose, programmer-friendly markup language like markdown. One example is image embedding. Another is friendly links (no visible URL). The idea is to make a future haddock be a *preprocessor* that generates pandoc's extended markdown (or some such). Documentation would be mostly markdown, with very few extensions for code documentation ('foo' and " Foo.Bar", maybe a bit more). Most of the doc would simply be passed through untouched. The code-doc extensions would get rewritten into standard markdown and mixed in with the rest. Pandoc could then take the generated markdown and produce HTML, LaTeX, DocBoook XML, etc. Perhaps there will be ways in which markdown falls short in expressiveness. If so, I'm guessing the shortcomings wouldn't be specific to the task of code documentation, and so could be approached as improvements to markdown/pandoc (which is written in Haskell). Since the old and new doc languages would be quite incompatible, we might want to specify in a .cabal file which language to use. Reactions? - Conal

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Re: [Haskell] Re: Re: RE: Extensible records: Static duck typing
by Mark P Jones 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

[Redirecting to haskell-cafe] Ben Franksen wrote: > TREX seems to be generally agreed to be too complicated to implement and > explain. What evidence do you have for this? Speaking as somebody who implemented Trex for Hugs (and who also witnessed Ben Gaster build an independent implementation), I'd have to disagree about the first part of this. As I recall, the implementation was reasonably straightforward, and wasn't any more complicated than other common type system extensions that I've worked on. I'm also not sure why you think it is complicated to explain, but I suppose that's even more subjective. One of the most difficult things about the Trex implementation was finding a syntax that meshed nicely with the rest of the Haskell syntax. This is likely to be a problem for any record system extension of Haskell---unless you're prepared to accept a more unconventional syntax---because many of the symbols that you might want to use ({, }, ., |, \, for example) have already been adopted for other purposes. Ah, syntax! All the best, Mark

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