June 2009 - Haskell-Cafe

Will GHC finally support epoll in 2009?
by Levi Greenspan 11 Dec '09

11 Dec '09

Ticket #635 "Replace use of select() in the I/O manager with epoll/kqueue/etc." (http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/635) dates back from 2005. Now its 2009 and GHC can handle hundreds of thousands of threads, yet having more than 1024 file descriptors open is still impossible. This limitation is a real bottle neck and prevents some cool developments on server side, like scalable comet servers. Instead others (e.g. Erlang guys) post stories about how they achived 1 million comet users (cf. http://www.metabrew.com/article/a-million-user-comet-application-with-mochi… ). Hence my question - is it likely that GHC will support epoll in 2009? Cheers and happy new year! - Levi

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Building network package on Windows
by Iavor Diatchki 02 Dec '09

02 Dec '09

Hi, I have been trying to build the package "network" from hackage (version 2.2.1.3) on Windows Vista, and I could really use some help. Building on the command line, or under cygwin completely failed (command line due to cabal not being able to execute something---possibly configure---although it would not say; cygwin first due to lack of gcc, which is tested but, apparently, the outcome ignored, and after gcc was installed some incompatibility with the header files which were detected but reported unusable). I managed to build the library under MinGW with msys without serious obstacles. I can also build my package against the result and all is well. Unfortunately, if I try to use my package to build an executable application I get a linker error, reporting a missing symbol during linking: C:\Users\diatchki\AppData\Roaming\cabal\network-2.2.1.3\ghc-6.10.3/libHSnetwork-2.2.1.3.a(Socket.o):fake:(.text+0xb014): undefined reference to `getnameinfo' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Now, "getnameinfo" is present in the header files, and it is also defined in the library ws2_32.a which is being passed to GHC so I am not sure what is going on. Any ideas? Searching the web suggests that the problem may be somehow related to the standard calling conventions but I don't really understand. Also, if I understand correctly, this functionality is related to IPv6 support, which I do not need at the moment, so it would be great if it could be easily disabled in some way. Any ideas, suggestion, workarounds, etc. would be greatly appreciated, -Iavor PS: I am using GHC 6.10.3

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Atom - help.
by Tom Hawkins 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Calling foreign functions that return values is problematic for the compiler -- I haven't invested enough time to come up with a good solution. The work around is to assign the result to an external variable. The drawback is the result will not be available until the rule executing the action has completed. results <- bool' "result" -- Global, external variable to capture result. action (\ [a, b, c] -> printf "result = function(%s, %s %s)" a b c) [a, b, c] -Tom On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Radamés Ajna<radamajna(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hi there, > > I've been working with haskell and atom dsl, however I'm new to haskell.. > John Van Enk inspired me with programming arduino->atmegas , with haskell, > So here is my problem. > With an action , action :: ([String] -> String) -> [UE] -> Atom () , > it's possible make calls to some precoded C functions like, > > setLED v = action (\[x] -> "setLED(" ++ x ++ ")") [v'] > where v' = ue . value $ v > > where setLed is a precode function. > > I want call a precoded C function that returns some value, but action > always give me Atom () , > that's I would like to do but I don't know how .. > > Atom (V Int8) < ---- "int read()" > > > thanks... > related links > http://hackage.haskell.org/package/atom-0.0.5 > http://blog.sw17ch.com/wordpress/?p=111 > http://leepike.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/an-atomic-fibonacci-server-explorin… > > > > Radamés > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe(a)haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe >

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Can this be done?
by Cristiano Paris 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

I wonder whether this can be done in Haskell (see muleherd's comment): http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7wi7s/how_continuationbased_we… Cristiano

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F# mailing list?
by Günther Schmidt 27 Sep '09

27 Sep '09

Hi guys, is there a mailing list for haskellers that defected to F#? Not that I was I going to, just asking, absolutely hypothetically. Uhm. Günther

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HDBC Oracle bindings(?/!)
by Thiago Arrais 15 Sep '09

15 Sep '09

Are there Oracle bindings for HDBC anywhere? The HDBC project page talks about Oracle backends but there isn't an Oracle-specific driver listed (I assume one can reach an Oracle backend through the ODBC interface?). I started writing Oracle bindings for HDBC based on the Takusen code. It was done mostly for playing than for anything else and certainly isn't production ready, but it is available in a darcs repo at http://thiagoarrais.com/repos/hdbc-oracle in case anyone is interested. This code isn't ready for prime time yet and I'm looking for some that *is*. Is there such a thing already? Cheers, Thiago Arrais -- Enjoy Chaos - http://blog.thiagoarrais.com Thoughts, ideas and useless ranting about software development and technology

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Can't install chp (confused by cabal yet again)
by Colin Paul Adams 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

I tried a cabal install chp: It complained that base was hidden. So I unpacked the archive, and tried installing using runhaskell Setup configure/build/install. Now I get (from install): Setup: You need to re-run the 'configure' command. The version of Cabal being used has changed (was Cabal-1.6.0.3, now Cabal-1.6.0.2). So I repeated the process and get the same message again. ghc version is 6.10.3 Also: cabal --version cabal-install version 0.6.2 using version 1.6.0.2 of the Cabal library Where does this 1-6.0.3 come from (Ghc HEAD perhaps?)? What can I do about it? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire

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[ANNOUNCE] hgettext 0.1.10 - last major release
by Vasyl Pasternak 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Hello, I've uploaded last (and latest) significant version on hgettext module. Currently it works fine, and has bindings to all gettext functions (from libintl.h). Next versions will be only bug fixes of this version. GNU GetText allows you only to create simple, standalone desktop applications for Linux, to make something complex you should use different trick, fortunately Haskell could do these tricks much easier than other languages (if you want to see, how to build Gtk application, which supports run time language switching, and shows information on two languages simultaneously you could download example from http://hgettext.googlecode.com/files/gtk-hello-0.0.2.tar.gz , or read about it from http://progandprog.blogspot.com/2009/04/multilingual-ui-and-dynamic-languag…) I don't see any strong reasons to write any combinators over this basic bindings. Haskell needs more powerful internationalization library, and I am plan to design it, but it will be completely different from gettext principles, so this library will be released with another name. CHANGELOG: * Added '--version' command line parameter to hgettext tool * Added support for literate haskell files to hgettext tool * Changed all functions to throw IOError when they fails instead of return Nothing * Added bindings for: ngettext, dgettext, dngettext, dcgettext and dcngettext functions -- Best regards, Vasyl Pasternak

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Leksah works!
by Eugene Kirpichov 23 Jul '09

23 Jul '09

Hi. Quite a while ago I launched Leksah and couldn't get anything done at all; so I thought it is probably never be completed and abandoned attempts to find an IDE for Haskell. However, 3 days ago I launched the new version and it works fantastic! It has an IntelliSense popup with type annotations, a module browser, build-on-the-fly and other things, even though I used it only for 15 minutes (then the ICFP contest began, where I wrote in Python and Java). Main point: It seems a vastly more convenient IDE for Haskell than vim (don't know about emacs-mode). So, I'd like to encourage haskellers to install it and give it a try :) -- Eugene Kirpichov Web IR developer, market.yandex.ru

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ANNOUNCE: first Grapefruit release
by Wolfgang Jeltsch 17 Jul '09

17 Jul '09

Dear friends of Haskell and Functional Reactive Programming, its my pleasure to announce the first official release of Grapefruit, a library for Functional Reactive Programming (FRP) with a focus on user interfaces. With Grapefruit, you can implement reactive and interactive systems in a declarative style. User interfaces are described as networks of communicating widgets and windows. Communication is done via different kinds of signals which describe temporal behavior. Grapefruit consists of five packages with several interesting features: grapefruit-frp: Functional Reactive Programming core * The FRP implementation uses a hybrid push/pull-based approach. * Signals can be memoized by binding them to variables – like ordinary data structures. * Merging of event streams combines simultaneous events properly. * Signals cannot behave differently by starting them at different times. The type system is used to enforce proper aging of signals. grapefruit-records: A record system for Functional Reactive Programming * Input records can specify fields as being required or optional. * Uninteresting output fields can be ignored. The set of interesting fields is specified by pattern matching. grapefruit-ui: Declarative user interface programming * The interface for UI programming is platform-independent and can be implemented on top of different UI toolkits. * A concrete implementation can be selected at compile time or runtime. grapefruit-ui-gtk: GTK+-based implementation of the general UI interface * Gtk2Hs is used internally. grapefruit-examples: examples demonstrating features of Grapefruit * Circular communication and switching are demonstrated. Support for the following is planned for the future: * signals with incremental updates * user interfaces with changing structure * more kinds of UI components * graphical animations Further information about Grapefruit is available on its wiki page at <http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Grapefruit>. If you have questions, applause or criticism, please get in touch with me. Wolfgang Jeltsch Principal Grapefruit developer

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