August 2015 - Haskell-Cafe

Join a transformer
by Michael Snoyman 11 Apr '18

11 Apr '18

I'm wondering if this pattern exists and has a name. We have the concept of joining a Monad: join :: Monad m => m (m a) -> ma How about joining a monad transformer? joinT :: (Monad m, MonadTrans t) => t (t m) a -> t m a I believe implementing this in terms of MonadTransControl[1] might be possible, but I was wondering if there's an already existing idiom for this. Michael [1] http://haddocks.fpcomplete.com/fp/7.4.2/20130301-40/monad-control/Control-M…

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PatternSignatures (rant)
by Johannes Waldmann 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

Dear all, (this is a rant - please ignore) why has "PatternSignatures" been renamed to "ScopedTypeVariables" (in ghc-6.10)? show me the alleged "type variable" in this code: do x :: Int <- [ 1 .. 10 ] ; return $ x^2 and why on earth do I need to use a language extension at all to get to the most basic thing of declarative programming: to declare the type of an identifier? This seriously hurts (me, at least) when teaching Haskell. Thanks - J.W.

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possible bug in latest hackage Elf (Elf-0.27)
by Baojun Wang 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

Hi list, with below test program: -- /* test1.c: build with -g -O0 */ include <stdio.h> static const char appmsg[] = "hello, world"; int main(int argc, char* argv[]) { fputs(appmsg, stdout); return 0; } --- elf-test1.hs module Main where import qualified Data.ByteString as B import qualified Data.ByteString.Char8 as C import Control.Monad import Data.Elf testelf = "/tmp/test1" testelfsym = C.pack "appmsg" lookupSymbol1 _ [] = Nothing lookupSymbol1 sym (t:ts) = case (snd (steName t)) of Nothing -> lookupSymbol1 sym ts Just sname -> if sname == sym then Just t else lookupSymbol1 sym ts lookupSymbol _ [] = Nothing lookupSymbol sym (t:ts) = case (lookupSymbol1 sym t) of Nothing -> lookupSymbol sym ts t1 -> t1 test1 elf symtab symbol = mapM_ (print) (elfSections elf) test2 elf symtab symbol = lookupSymbol symbol symtab test3 elf symtab symbol = lookupSymbol symbol symtab >>= \et -> findSymbolDefinition et mainloop elf symtab symbol = -- (test1 elf symtab symbol) >> print (test2 elf symtab symbol) >> print (test3 elf symtab symbol) >> return () main = do contents <- B.readFile testelf let elf = parseElf contents symtab = parseSymbolTables elf mainloop elf symtab testelfsym --- the latest Data.Elf doesn't geive correct output as expected: output will be: Just (EST {steName = (9,Just "appmsg"), steEnclosingSection = Just (ElfSection {elfSectionName = ".fini", elfSectionType = SHT_PROGBITS, elfSectionFlags = [SHF_EXECINSTR,SHF_ALLOC], elfSectionAddr = 4195908, elfSectionSize = 9, elfSectionLink = 0, elfSectionInfo = 0, elfSectionAddrAlign = 4, elfSectionEntSize = 0, elfSectionData = "H\131\236\bH\131\196\b\195"}), steType = STTObject, steBind = STBLocal, steOther = 0, steIndex = SHNIndex 14, steValue = 4195924, steSize = 13}) >From above, you can see the steEnclosingSection is wrong and offset by 1. The *correct* output should be: Just (EST {steName = (9,Just "appmsg"), steEnclosingSection = Just (ElfSection {elfSectionName = ".rodata", elfSectionType = SHT_PROGBITS, elfSectionFlags = [SHF_ALLOC], elfSectionAddr = 4195920, elfSectionSize = 17, elfSectionLink = 0, elfSectionInfo = 0, elfSectionAddrAlign = 4, elfSectionEntSize = 0, elfSectionData = "\SOH\NUL\STX\NULhello, world\NUL"}), steType = STTObject, steBind = STBLocal, steOther = 0, steIndex = SHNIndex 14, steValue = 4195924, steSize = 13}) Just "hello, world\NUL" After check Elf.hs, I found there could be two issues: 1) in sectionByIndex, (SHNIndex) should start from 0, not 1; this cause the steEnclosingSection from my exmaple offset by 1; 2) in findSymbolDefinition, start should substract the sectionAddr (base address). please see below diff for details: -- --- a/Elf.hs 2012-12-04 19:27:51.000000000 -0800 +++ b/Elf.hs 2014-05-14 22:57:01.014498515 -0700 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -- | Data.Elf is a module for parsing a ByteString of an ELF file into an Elf record. -module Data.Elf ( parseElf +module Elf ( parseElf , parseSymbolTables , findSymbolDefinition , Elf(..) @@ -666,12 +666,12 @@ getSymbolTableEntries e s = -- If the size is zero, or the offset larger than the 'elfSectionData', -- then 'Nothing' is returned. findSymbolDefinition :: ElfSymbolTableEntry -> Maybe B.ByteString -findSymbolDefinition e = - let enclosingData = fmap elfSectionData (steEnclosingSection e) - start = fromIntegral (steValue e) +findSymbolDefinition e = steEnclosingSection e >>= \enclosingSection -> + let enclosingData = elfSectionData enclosingSection + start = ( (fromIntegral (steValue e)) - (fromIntegral (elfSectionAddr enclosingSection) ) ) len = fromIntegral (steSize e) - def = fmap (B.take len . B.drop start) enclosingData - in if def == Just B.empty then Nothing else def + def = (B.take len . B.drop start) enclosingData + in if def == B.empty then Nothing else Just def runGetMany :: Get a -> L.ByteString -> [a] runGetMany g bs @@ -712,7 +712,7 @@ getSymbolTableEntry e strtlb = return $ EST (nameIdx,name) sec typ bind other sTlbIdx symVal size sectionByIndex :: Elf -> ElfSectionIndex -> Maybe ElfSection -sectionByIndex e (SHNIndex i) = lookup i . zip [1..] $ (elfSections e) +sectionByIndex e (SHNIndex i) = lookup i . zip [0..] $ (elfSections e) sectionByIndex _ _ = Nothing infoToTypeAndBind :: Word8 -> (ElfSymbolType,ElfSymbolBinding) -- Would you please check above change and update Data.Elf hackage? I cannot find the author from http://hackage.haskell.org/package/elf-0.27 Thanks baojun

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Data constructor ‘Minus’ comes from an un-promotable type ‘Ints’
by Nicholls, Mark 15 Sep '16

15 Sep '16

Hello, I clearly don’t really know what I’m doing…but at least I know it…. Here we defined the Naturals…and then attempt to construct the Integers…. > {-# LANGUAGE DataKinds #-} > {-# LANGUAGE ExplicitForAll #-} > {-# LANGUAGE FlexibleContexts #-} > {-# LANGUAGE FlexibleInstances #-} > {-# LANGUAGE GADTs #-} > {-# LANGUAGE MultiParamTypeClasses #-} > {-# LANGUAGE PolyKinds #-} > {-# LANGUAGE StandaloneDeriving #-} > {-# LANGUAGE TypeFamilies #-} > {-# LANGUAGE TypeOperators #-} > {-# LANGUAGE UndecidableInstances #-} > {-# LANGUAGE ScopedTypeVariables #-} > import Prelude hiding (head, tail, (++), (+), replicate) > import qualified Prelude as P naturals > data Nat where > Z :: Nat > S :: Nat -> Nat I can now define + and * and prove things about them…1 * x == x etc….nice..but lets put that on one side. Borrow bits and bobs from singletons > data family Sing (a :: k) Borrow bits and bobs from singletons..i.e. the isomorphic values…my proofs in nat now map to SNat…double nice. > type SNat = (Sing :: Nat -> *) Create the integers by following my nose……(the integers are the equivalence class of pairs of naturals….) i.e. we have “positive” or “negative” or “zero”… > data Ints (a :: Nat) (b :: Nat) where > Minus :: SNat a -> Ints 'Z a > Zero :: Ints 'Z 'Z > Plus :: SNat a -> Ints a 'Z > Ok….this works as a set of values….but…. I can’t prove anything about these because the data constructors for my integers aren’t “promotable”…..so I cant do the same trick I did with Nat. “:k Zero” ….. Data constructor ‘Zero’ comes from an un-promotable type ‘Ints’ In a type in a GHCi command: Zero I’ve tried rejigging this in various futile and ignorant manners….but the bottom line is its…”un-promotable”…..look at the docs, and it says something vague about GADT’s…but that isnt the problem directly. Is there a nifty way around this log jam? (I can start proving things about ‘(Nat,Nat)….but this will soon become a bit clumsy….) Or do I just stop here and wrestle with getting agda installed and lose another few months in the agda-café (which appears to be a very nice place somewhere in finland….hmmmm…I think that’s something different). (I’ve already allegedly descended into cabal hell following my nose with an agda install… setup.exe: The program cpphs version >=1.18.6 && <1.19 is required but the version found at C:\Users\nichom\AppData\Roaming\cabal\bin\cpphs.exe is version 1.19). computer science would be good, if it wasn’t for the computers. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay, data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise these risks when e-mailing us. MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse, Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions International, Be Viacom, Viacom International Media Networks and VIMN and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks Europe Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great Britain is 17-29 Hawley Crescent, London, NW1 8TT.

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Commutative monads vs Applicative functors
by Ronald Guida 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

I have a few questions about commutative monads and applicative functors. >From what I have read about applicative functors, they are weaker than monads because with a monad, I can use the results of a computation to select between alternative future computations and their side effects, whereas with an applicative functor, I can only select between the results of computations, while the structure of those computations and their side effects are fixed in advance. But then there are commutative monads. I'm not exactly sure what a commutative monad is, but my understanding is that in a commutative monad the order of side effects does not matter. This leads me to wonder, are commutative monads still stronger than applicative functors, or are they equivalent? And by the way, what exactly is a commutative monad?

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Haskell-related PhD Studentship at Kent
by Meng Wang 22 Mar '16

22 Mar '16

Dear Haskellers, I am seeking a PhD student on a Haskell-related project: http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/research/studyingforaphd/phd-wang.html This would be a good opportunity for someone who is interested in applying Haskell ideas to real problems. The funding covers maintenance, EU student fees and research related expenses. But non-EU students are welcome to apply too. For Sep 2015 starting, the application deadline is 17 April 2015. If you are interested, please contact me at m.w.wang(a)kent.ac.uk<mailto:m.w.wang@kent.ac.uk>. Best wishes, Meng — Dr Meng Wang School of Computing University of Kent http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/mw516/

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repa parallelization results
by Anatoly Yakovenko 14 Jan '16

14 Jan '16

https://gist.github.com/aeyakovenko/bf558697a0b3f377f9e8 so i am seeing basically results with N4 that are as good as using sequential computation on my macbook for the matrix multiply algorithm. any idea why? Thanks, Anatoly

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Google Cloud API
by Tomas Carnecky 24 Oct '15

24 Oct '15

I recently migrated some infrastructure from AWS to Google Cloud and needed a way to upload a file to a storage bucket. For AWS there's an awesome Haskell library (aws), but I couldn't find anything comparable for interacting with the Google Cloud APIs. While it wouldn't be difficult to write a standalone function for that simple task, I decided to package it up in a library. Currently implemented is uploading a ByteString to a bucket and some metadata server queries. That's all I need currently, but I may add a few more selected APIs in the near future (mostly around managing compute instances). Adding support for new APIs should be relatively easy, even without having to change the library itself. All the internals are exposed to users of the library. There is nothing private or hidden. The library gives you access to convenience functions to send HTTP requests. That, coupled with a bit of JSON/aeson parsing, should cover most use cases. http://hackage.haskell.org/package/google-cloud https://github.com/wereHamster/google-cloud#readme

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Haskell Tooling Infrastructure
by Alan & Kim Zimmerman 02 Oct '15

02 Oct '15

Now that I am finally turning back to HaRe, the question of infrastructure again comes up. Basically I woudl like to focus in the tool itself, but it can only be useful if it can deal with real world environments. This means properly managing all the different project and compiler environments, and being integrated into IDEs. The current version uses ghc-mod for the lower level interface, and a simple command line interface for the IDE integration. But I have a definite sense that as a community every tool maker is solving the same problems over and over, from ghc-mod to ide-backend to ghci-ng, and onwards. To start a discussion around some kind of architeccture that tool writers can develop agains, ide's can integrat against and ghc/cabal can eventually internalise, I have put some basic points down at https://github.com/RefactoringTools/HaRe/wiki/Requirements-for-IDE-GHC-inte… Regards Alan

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Why Haskell is beautiful to the novice
by Olaf Klinke 19 Sep '15

19 Sep '15

Dear cafe, please correct me if questions like this should not go via this mailing list. Presumably everyone on this list agrees that Haskell stands out as a beautiful and pleasant language to have. The recent nitpicking and real-world problems like cabal hell don't change that. However, statements supporting Haskell's beauty usually involve: "In Haskell it is so much clearer/easier/faster to ... than in another language." That is, the beauty of Haskell presents itself to those who can compare it to other imperative or not strongly typed languages that one learned before Haskell. My question is, for what reason should anyone not acquainted with any programming language find Haskell beautiful? Maybe it does not look beautiful at all to the novice. The novice can not draw on the comparison, unless he takes the effort to learn more than one language in parallel. The novice likely also does not have the mathematical background to see the beautiful correspondence between the language and its semantics. (My reason to love FP is because it is executable domain theory.) One might argue that it is not the language itself that is beautiful, but rather the concepts (data structures, algorithms, recursion) and Haskell does a great job to preserve their beauty into the implementation. Do you agree? Disclaimer: I am about to start teaching a first course in computer science in secondary school. I can teach whatever I want, since this is the first CS course the school ever had. I want to teach beautiful things. I love functional programming. I need not start teaching programming right away. But I am reluctant to expose the pupils to something whose beauty escapes them completely. -- Olaf

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