Re: [Haskell-cafe] Great language shootout: reloaded

On 11/10/06, Henk-Jan van Tuyl wrote:

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 01:44:15 +0100, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote:

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So back in January we had lots of fun tuning up Haskell code for the Great Language Shootout[1]. We did quite well at the time, at one point ranking overall first[2]. [...]

Haskell suddenly dropped several places in the overall socre, when the size measurement changed from line-count to number-of-bytes after gzipping. Maybe it's worth it, to study why this is; Haskell programs are often much more compact then programs in other languages, but after gzipping, other languages do much better. One reason I can think of, is that for very short programs, the import statements weigh heavily.

I think the main factor is that languages with large syntactic redundancy get that compressed away. I.e if you write: MyVeryLongAndConvlutedClassName MyVeryLargeAndConvulutedObject new MyVeryLongAndConvolutedClassName( somOtherLongVariableName ); Or something like that, that makes the code clumpsy and difficult to read, but it won't affect the gzipped byte count very much. Their current way of meassuring is pretty much pointless, since the main thing the gzipping does is remove the impact of clunky syntax. Meassuring lines of code is certainly not perfect, but IMO it's a lot more useful as a metric then gzipped bytes. -- Sebastian Sylvan +46(0)736-818655 UIN: 44640862