
Haskell's records are a bit annoying, and type-classes often group together too many methods, which means you make early decisions about future unknown requirements, and IMO you always get it wrong :-) After having read an email in the cafe about the Noop language & Self language, I realized that what I really would like to have is "strong duck typing" on records (or is it called structural subtyping? or prototype-based-objects? or something like that) For example (silly example full of inaccuracies, but you get the picture): class HasPosition a where position :: a -> Point withPosition :: Point -> a -> a class HasVelocity a where velocity :: a -> Vector withVelocity :: Vector -> a -> a which we really should write as field HasPosition :: Point field HasVelocity :: Vector And then record IsKinetic :: HasPosition HasVelocity suppose we write a function like kineticEulerStep dt k = withPosition (position k .+^ dt *^ velocity k) k kineticEulerStep will work on any type a that HasPosition and HasVelocity, and would get inferred signature kineticEulerStep :: IsKinetic a => Float -> a -> a which is identical to kineticEulerStep :: (HasPosition a, HasVelocity a) => Float -> a -> a So basically kineticEulerStep accepts anything that HasPosition and HasVelocity, whatever it is. So if it walks like a duck and ..., then it is a duck, but statically known... We could also do field HasForce :: Vector field HasMass :: Float record IsDynamic :: IsKinetic HasForce HasMass acceleration d = force d ^/ mass d withAcceleration a d = withForce (a ^* mass d) d dynamicEulerStep dt d = withVelocity (velocity d ^+^ dt *^ acceleration d) Of course you would also need type families to be really correct since Vector, Point, etc should also be parametrized. And really kineticEulerStep might also work on something that HasVelocity and HasAcceleration (since the code in dynamicEulerStep is almost the same as kineticEulerStep), so better abstraction might be needed. I'm not sure what kind of overhead a system like this would have in Haskell, since I suspect the many dictionaries are often not optimized away. I think for Haskell prime, something like this was suggestedhttp://repetae.net/recent/out/classalias.html, but is was rejected? Languages like OCaml and haXe http://haxe.org/manual/2_types also provide a similar feature? I would like to collect ways of doing this in Haskell, without boilerplate, and preferably without runtime overhead. I remember reading OOHaskell a while time ago, and while I didn't understand a lot of it, I recall it also was doing a similar thing, but since the compiler lacks native support, the error messages you get most likely make it impossible to figure out what is going wrong. I think Grapefruit's Records, HList, Data.Accessor, etc.. might also work. Any guidelines and comments regarding "strong duck typing"/"structural subtyping" are very welcome, since the lack of this is the only reason why I would prefer a dynamic language over a static one. Thanks a lot, Peter Verswyvelen