On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:59:40PM +0100, Andrew Coppin wrote:
NNTP is ...
It's all true. I used nntp extensively in the 90s. I never emo-quit, I just stopped using it over time due to waning ISP support and other reasons made it more of a pain. I have nothing against nntp as a protocol, but I have my reasons for no longer using it.
I constantly have trouble with this mailing list. Even gmane can't seem to thread it properly. But I've never had any trouble with threading in any NNTP group, ever.
Hmm. I don't see this mailing list as unusual in any way wrt threading, except that most people here actually *do* reply properly, most of the time.
* If the mailing lists go away I will probably not switch to whatever replaces it.
...aaaand this is why no matter how superior it is, this list will never get updated.
Pretty much.
* A list <-> forum gateway is fine, as long as the message IQ doesn't drop through the floor as a result. This fear comes from personal, anecdotal evidence. YMMV.
Uh, why would that happen?
I guess if it went to a web forum there'd by a greater danger of that maybe. But heck, we don't have much trouble on IRC, and that's notorious for the kind of trolls it tends to attract...
In my experience, either a web forum is actively maintained and moderated or it becomes a troll magnet. Trolls can live anywhere, but they prefer caves, under bridges, and web forums. People on this list who desire a forum are not the problem, and I certainly don't want to imply that. As for IRC, I think freenode/#haskell has enough quality and quantity to keep the trolls down. I haven't had much troll problems on freenode, though I'm sure others could share some tales.
* No opinion either way on List <-> NNTP gateway.
As I say, there already is one. But because 98% of everybody uses this list as an email list, you can't go using it like it's a news group. You'll just get yelled at.
I find it surprising that you'd get yelled at, but I don't really know. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation