Re: [Haskell-cafe] Unmaintained packages and hackage upload rights

I think the proposed approach is only reasonable. However, I would like to stress that in any case it would be better to make sure that we give the maintainer enough time to respond, e.g.: if the maintainer is unreachable for a couple of weeks at least On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Erik Hesselink wrote:

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Roman Cheplyaka wrote:

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* Erik de Castro Lopo [2014-01-31 09:22:36+1100]

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I really can understand why you did this; I am frustrated by some of the same issues. However, I think if any significant number of people did this, the results could easily be disasterous.

Agreed. Maybe we need those disasterous results to realize that the current process is bad and come up with a better one. Or maybe it's just me, and everyone else is happy (enough) with the process, so nothing will happen.

That's a rather fatalist attitude, and also one that is not warranted given the replies in this thread. Let me try to be more constructive instead:

I propose to make the trustees group able to upload any package, with the understanding that they only do so to make packages where the maintainer is unreachable compile on more compilers or with more versions of dependencies. The newly uploaded version should have a public repository of the forked source available and listed in the cabal file. The process would then be:

* User fixes a package, emails the maintainer. * No response: User emails trustees. * Trustees check the above conditions, and upload the new version.

This is more lightweight that the process to take over maintainership, and it can be, because we're not trusting a random user with a random package. Instead, we're only trusting a fixed set of maintainers and a small, publicly visible change. Because of this, the waiting times for non-responsiveness can probably also be shorter than in the maintainer take-over process.

Would this alleviate the frustration, while at the same time maintaining enough security and sense of package ownership?

Regards,

Erik _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

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